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gicu · Post by **gicu** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:39 am

imi sta cam 1 minut pana imi incarca WIN XPpro! Aveti idee ce sa fie.. apare logou cu WIN XP si sta peste 20s pana se parinde ledu de la HDD !!! Acu 3 zile in incarca in 30 sec si acu intr-un minut. :x .ce nai*a are?? :-?

dexter · Post by **dexter** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 3:17 pm

Acum mai nou se recomanda stergerea directorului Prefetch.
Dar stiu k de obicei cum incepi sa instalezi mai multe pe xp cu atat tine mai mult incarcarea...la mine ajunge cam la 1:30 - 2 minute dar m-am obshnuit caci pana la urma nu e aşa de mult

gicu · Post by **gicu** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 11:24 pm

k. ce draq sunt pf file ?? totusi am dat atatia bani pe el ca sa mearga ca ala vechiu [p2 450] ??? sa stea 1 minut la incarcarea windowsului ? ala vechi incarca ME in 45 sec

dexter · Post by **dexter** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:37 am

yup

da nu uita ca totushi e Windows...nu linux

gicu · Post by **gicu** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:41 pm

Am gasit rezolvarea.

HDD al doilea care e p RACK. Daca il opresc incarca mult mai repede , de fapt nu se mai opreste din incarcat. Ce naiba poate sa aibe ca nu incar nimic de pe HDD ala ? :-?

Post by **Bossman** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:46 pm

gicu wrote:Daca il opresc incarca mult mai repede , de fapt nu se mai opreste din incarcat. Ce naiba poate sa aibe ca nu incar nimic de pe HDD ala ? :-?

E posibil să stea foarte mult până detectează HDD-ul din rack ... vezi prin BIOS să n-ai vreo opţiune de RAID sau SATA activată aiurea pe acolo ...

Edge · Post by **Edge** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 9:05 pm

gicu wrote:imi sta cam 1 minut pana imi incarca WIN XPpro!

Te referi la timpul de când ai apăsat pe butonul de power, sau de când a apărut ecranul cu WindowsXP ? :roll:

gicu · Post by **gicu** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:46 pm

bossman : nu cred ca stie G8IE2004 de RAID si SATA :lol:
T.J.

e cand apare logu cu WIN XP :x
e pus pe AUTO le detection si de fiecare data cand booteaza il recunoaste!! ce naiba poate sa incarce asa mult in HDD?

Post by **john** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:16 pm

gicule,

Ia verifica si jumperii de la HDD / CDROM si ce mai ai tu. Vezi sa fie ori
alba ori neagra (adica Master / Slave) si nu CS (Cable Select)

john

-=ktistai=- · Post by **-=ktistai=-** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 1:31 pm

gicu wrote:imi sta cam 1 minut pana imi incarca WIN XPpro! Aveti idee ce sa fie.. apare logou cu WIN XP si sta peste 20s pana se parinde ledu de la HDD !!! Acu 3 zile in incarca in 30 sec si acu intr-un minut. :x .ce nai*a are?? :-?

printre cauze software :
*directorul prefetch din windows
*stergerea fisierelor tmp, bak.
*verificare in run a msconfig pt a observa ce programe se initializeaza la start-up
*curatarea registrilor(jv16 se descurca insa sunt multe alte softuri ce pot face curatenie in registri-atentie sa nu uiti sa faci bekap inainte de a face o curatenie in reg)
*verificare swap-file
In ultimul caz un format daca ai mai multe luni de la ultimul si ai instalat o sacosa de programel(chiar daca le-ai dezinstalat ulterior)

cauze software : placa de baza , ram, proc, hdd in aceasta ordine.

Am pus pe primul loc moboul pt ca la configuratia mea (modest de altfel) in momentul in care am sarit de la kt266 la nforce2 (fara nici o alta schimbare ) boot-ul a ajuns la 1 liniuta maxim 2 in xp prof(ianite stateam de-mi expira b.i.-u).

Editat later : scuze acum m-am uitat cu atentie la configuratia ta si hardware-ul poti sa-l elimini(desi inca 256 de ram ar fi un necesar pe sistemul tau)

seba18 · Post by **seba18** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 12:15 am

Uite aici rezolvarea:

First of all, this tweak only apply to those who only have one HDD on their primary IDE channel (nothing else on device 0 or 1) and a CD-ROM and/or DVD-ROM on the secondary IDE channel. Each time you boot Windows XP, there's an updated file called NTOSBOOT-*.pf who appears in your prefetch directory (%SystemRoot%\Prefetch) and there's no need to erease any other files as the new prefetch option in XP really improves loading time of installed programs. We only want WindowsXP to boot faster and not decrease its performance. Thanks to Rod Cahoon (for the prefetch automation process...with a minor change of mine) and Zeb for the IDE Channel tweak as those two tricks, coupled together with a little modification, result in an EXTREMELY fast bootup:

1. Open notepad.exe, type "del c:\windows\prefetch\ntosboot-*.* /q" (without the quotes) & save as "ntosboot.bat" in c:\
2. From the Start menu, select "Run..." & type "gpedit.msc".
3. Double click "Windows Settings" under "Computer Configuration" and double click again on "Shutdown" in the right window.
4. In the new window, click "add", "Browse", locate your "ntosboot.bat" file & click "Open".
5. Click "OK", "Apply" & "OK" once again to exit.
6. From the Start menu, select "Run..." & type "devmgmt.msc".
7. Double click on "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers"
8. Right click on "Primary IDE Channel" and select "Properties".
9. Select the "Advanced Settings" tab then on the device 0 or 1 that doesn't have 'device type' greyed out select 'none' instead of 'autodetect' & click "OK".
10. Right click on "Secondary IDE channel", select "Properties" and repeat step 9.
11. Reboot your computer.

WindowsXP should now boot REALLY faster.

gicu · Post by **gicu** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 1:14 pm

seba18 ai avut dreptate. Acu dupa o liniuta [win xp] imi intra in windows. Dar ce naiba face chestia aia pe care m-ai pus sa o fac? NU imi mai detecteaza la incarcarea SO hdd al doilea ?? :-?

dexter · Post by **dexter** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:24 pm

pei ai incercat-o si nu mai recunoashte....sau e doar o intrebare teoretica ?

seba18 · Post by **seba18** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 10:18 pm

gicu wrote:seba18 ai avut dreptate. Acu dupa o liniuta [win xp] imi intra in windows. Dar ce naiba face chestia aia pe care m-ai pus sa o fac? NU imi mai detecteaza la incarcarea SO hdd al doilea ?? :-?

In primul rand, iti sterge la oprirea calculatorului toate fisierele din Prefetch, pe care altfel windows-ul XP le incarca fara nici un rost la pornire.In al doilea rand, daca ii spui windows-ului sa nu-ti mai detecteze HDD-urile pe care nici macar nu le ai montate pe cablu

, acesta va porni mai rpd.
Sper ca m-am facut inteles...

ricardo · Post by **ricardo** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 10:55 pm

seba18 wrote:In primul rand, iti sterge la oprirea calculatorului toate fisierele din Prefetch, pe care altfel windows-ul XP le incarca fara nici un rost la pornire

Nu este in totalitate adevarat ceea ce spui... banuiesc ca stii la ce se refera acel director Prefetch din XP, deci cu atat mai mult ma mira afirmatia ta...

http://www.prabhums.org/weblogs/?postid=70 wrote:Windows XP monitors the files that are used when computer starts and also when you start applications. By monitoring these files, Windows XP can prefetch them. Prefetching data is the process whereby data that is expected to be requested is read ahead into the cache. Prefetching boot files and applications decreases the time needed to start Windows XP and start applications.

1. Este recomandat sa stergi directorul Prefetch (deci tot ce contine) aproximativ o data pe luna:

http://www.tweakxp.com/tweak1438.aspx wrote:First, it's easy enough to go to the \Windows\Prefetch folder and manually delete the files. But I recommend against deleting Prefetch folder files more than once a month or so - otherwise you are defeting the purpose of the cache.

2. Daca ai fi citit cu atentie textul pe care l-ai copiat (a carui sursa nu te-ai obosit sa o postezi), ai fi vazut ca stergerea se referea doar la fisierele ntosboot-*.pf...

http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/01/12/XPKernel/default.aspx wrote:An exception to the file name rule is the file that stores the boot's trace, which is always named NTOSBOOT-B00DFAAD.PF (a convolution of the hexadecimal-compatible word BAADF00D, which programmers often use to represent uninitialized data). Only after the Cache Manager has finished the boot trace (the time of which was defined earlier) does it collect page fault information for specific applications.

http://board.iexbeta.com/ibf10/index.php?showtopic=636&st=15 wrote:Each time you boot Windows XP, there's an updated file called NTOSBOOT-*.pf who appears in your prefetch directory (%SystemRoot%\Prefetch) and there's no need to erease any other files as the new prefetch option in XP really improves loading time of installed programs. We only want WindowsXP to boot faster and not decrease its performance.

gicu · Post by **gicu** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 11:51 pm

ricardo are ceva daca am facut ceea ce a spus seba18? cum faca sa nu mai stearga singur dir prefecth daca spui ca nu e bine ?

seba18 · Post by **seba18** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 1:22 am

ricardo,windows-ul meu merge foarte bine cu chestia asta, boot-eaza f repede si bine-mersi il am instalat de vre-un an jumate. Nu am publicat sursa textului, pt ca si eu l-am luat tot dintr-un forun xtrempc, cu mult timp in urma.[/b]

ricardo · Post by **ricardo** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 1:41 am

gicu wrote:ricardo are ceva daca am facut ceea ce a spus seba18? cum faca sa nu mai stearga singur dir prefecth daca spui ca nu e bine ?

Pai ai doua solutii:
- varianta simpla: editezi fisierul bat (ntosboot.bat) si stergi linia cu del
- varianta recomandata: te duci iar cu gpedit.msc in Computer Configuration / Shutdown si stergi intrarea cu ntosboot.bat

gigu, nu iti poate afecta stabilitatea sistemului sau datele de pe hdd in vreun fel faptul ca se ruleaza acea comanda la fiecare shutdown, insa, acel cache pentru aplicatii a fost gandit cu un scop de catre Microsoft si, dupa cum ai vazut, majoritatea persoanelor recomandat stergerea lui completa regulat (la o luna / cateva saptamani).
Daca ai scris insa exact cum te-a sfatuit seba18, atunci tu stergi doar intrarile legate de boot trace din directorul Prefetch, ceea ce am vazut si eu ca este recomandat, deci nu stergi tot directorul! In concluzie, nu este nici o problema!

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