http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/sh ... =2388&p=11
aici se vede cu adevarat forta acestor cpu.. zic eu , lumea incepe sa faca teste reale.. pt mai toti avem o groaza de background in sistem.
nu e rau deloc

asteptam raspunsul AMD ..
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Dar, oricum, mai avea mult de asteptat pana vedem replica pentru desktop din partea AMD (cel putin jumatate de an).Make no mistake, Intel isn't officially releasing their dual core desktop processors today; this is merely a preview. Intel's dual core line is still on track to be released sometime in the April - June timeframe.
Imi place, nici macar nu au aparut pe piata si deja a si inceput batalia, nu va pare ca este nitel cam devreme si vorbiti despre niste aspecte de care nu sunteti nici unii nici alti foarte siguri, sau depresiile numite : "intelomaniacodepresivi" si cea "amdcusughitlacerebel" isi fac efectul odata cu astenia de primavara ?poe wrote:Da un link ca sa iti sustii parerea, ca sa vad ca nu e doar o afirmatie aruncata in vant.
- AMD should get an even larger boost from the move to dual core than Intel has, simply because AMD doesn't presently have the ability to execute more than one thread at a time. Intel's Hyper Threading on their single core chips does improve response time greatly as well as improves multitasking performance. For AMD, the move to dual core will give their users the benefits in response time that their Intel counterparts have enjoyed with Hyper Threading as well as the extra advantage offered by having two identical cores on a chip.
Is this a good thing or a bad thing?cimi wrote:Pt cine nu a citit (cu atentie) articolul de pe Anand:
- AMD should get an even larger boost from the move to dual core than Intel has, simply because AMD doesn't presently have the ability to execute more than one thread at a time. Intel's Hyper Threading on their single core chips does improve response time greatly as well as improves multitasking performance. For AMD, the move to dual core will give their users the benefits in response time that their Intel counterparts have enjoyed with Hyper Threading as well as the extra advantage offered by having two identical cores on a chip.
poe wrote:Sunteti invidiosi ca am luat avatarul asta inaintea voastra, asta e...
Wishmaker, documenteaza-te mai serios inainte de a posta.Wishmaker wrote:SMITHFIELD are o problema cu BUS-ul care permite comunicarea intre CORE-uri. Este putin lag care afecteaza putin scorurile din bench-uri. In legatura cu performante si overclocking single core-urile vor ramane mai puternice si mai stabile.
Sa vedem si raspunsul AMD-istilor din tzara lu` papura voda.
Sa inteleg ca tomshardware nu se ridica la standardele tale?An important message is that a Pentium D works as fast as a single core Pentium 4 at equal clock speeds. However, our synthetic benchmarks unmask the slower memory bandwidth of the Pentium D, which is caused by the concurrent FSB, lag between cores,and memory access of both cores.
Datele de pe THG sunt corecte, insa interpretarea ta lasa de dorit. Nu privesti problema din unghiul potrivit. Chestiunea cu stabilitatea este o aiureala.Wishmaker wrote:Sa inteleg ca tomshardware nu se ridica la standardele tale?An important message is that a Pentium D works as fast as a single core Pentium 4 at equal clock speeds. However, our synthetic benchmarks unmask the slower memory bandwidth of the Pentium D, which is caused by the concurrent FSB, lag between cores,and memory access of both cores.
Tomshardware.Of course we had to check whether the Pentium D offers overclocking potential. The answer is a definite 'yes, it does' - but beware of the heat issues this causes! At 4 GHz we had to apply massive cooling in order to keep the system stable enough for benchmarking. Practically speaking, 3.8 and 4.0 GHz won't be possible without liquid cooling as oppose to single core processors which can attain these speeds with air cooling.
Chestiunea cu stabilitatea este o aiureala.
O afirmatie de genul: "In legatura cu performante si overclocking single core-urile vor ramane mai puternice si mai stabile." induce in eroare un necunoscator intrucat nu este completa.
Cert este ca platforma amd mi-a creat numai probleme, nu ma intereseaza ca de la o placa de baza sau alta eu ca cumparator nu stau sa testez toate placile de pe piata pana sa iau una buna.In plus am clienti care nu vor sa vada cum stau si schimb setari sau placi in timp ce le arat o lucrare. La fel nu-mi pot permite sa depasesc un deadline din cauza ca dfi sau abit sau amd nu stiu sa faca o combinatie buna.
Royal eu discutam despre cu totul altceva. Bag sama ca nu ai citit ce am scris.RoyaL wrote:tty tu cand joci nu ai nimic in background? ai un sistem operativ diet dedicat jocurilor?
afla ca si atunci cand ai un AV ,un FW, eu stiu cloonecd,daemon tools,audio ,vreun software de optimizat precum cacheman xp tot multitasking se cheama..
pe net testele trebuiesc luat asa ca titlu informativ dar nu reprezinta prestatiile reale ale sistemului in daily use.daca tu ai un Athlon care macina 10% de frames in plus..stai linistit ca un P4 cu HT ON recupereaza pe un win cu 10 programe in background.
personal ma bucur ca nvidia a intrat pe piata Intel, nu pt ca as fi tentat sa cumpar chipsetul lor cu sau fara SLI , in sfarsit va exista putina concurenta si asta (teoretic) va ajuta la scaderea preturilor.
Asta vreau sa aud, fratele meu ! Ezitarile mele pleaca de la faptul ca nu vreau sa arunc banii degeaba.. Ma tenteaza platforma pe 64 biti ( nu stiu precis de ce, dar ma tenteaza...). Necazul e ca trebuie sa scap de minunatia de placa video si inca nu am gasit cui s-o dau. Ma gandesc la Abit sau DFI, pe 939 cu NF4 si SLI, si la un Athlon64 3500+ sau 3800+ (FX si 4000+ sunt prohibitiv de scumpe). Colac peste pupaza , apare Venice care imi tulbura emotiile...2hacku wrote: Insa la uz general+gaming, un Winchester 3200+ @2.6Ghz este mai bun decat un Prescott la 3.8Ghz per ansamblu. Si asta la aproape un sfert de pret.
Ai grija ce alcool consumi...2hacku wrote: ....
Insa cand vine vorba de maximizarea performantei, A64 ofera mai mult.