Intel vs. AMD - the topic ... the poll #2

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The result: 375 employees from AMD's 16,000-strong global workforce have been handed their walking papers.

Nearly half of those were former ATI Technologies workers.
Sa nu-si taie craca de sub picioare cu astfel de decizii, caci ne trezim cu nVidia ca singur producator de cipuri grafice pentru fanii gaming-ului! (dpadv Intel ramane la cratita (office))
Nu taie nimeni nici o cracă, dacă citeai atent observai că majoritatea celor plecaţi de la ATI au fost din departamentul de HR şi "alte departamente", cât timp nu scrie ingineri e ok.

Se observă acelaşi comportament ca şi la ultimele concedieri de la Intel, optimizarea la maxim a structurii forţei de muncă pentru a minimiza cheluielile. Cum spunea şi Savantu' mai demult, inginerii sunt din nou la putere.

Aşa că "relax and enjoy the ride" urmează staţiile R600, apoi Barcelona, amândouă aflate sub asediu din partea Nvidia respectiv Intel. Va fi o vară distractivă.
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Hmm...se pare ca o companie chiar simte rasuflarea in ceafa a gorilei trezite.

In scurt timp , valoarea totala a AMD+ATI va fi mai mica decat suma platita de AMD pentru ATI.Chiar si pentru un neavizat in economie si finante aia nu suna prea bine.


http://news.com.com/AMD+sees+revenue+be ... g=nefd.top
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Holy sh|t. Intel dude, slow down: it's getting real.

Din cate am vazut intr-o alta stire (acelasi subiect), AMD incearca sa nu mai angajeze oameni decat pentru pozitiile critice. AMD chiar are ceva probleme financiare. Sa-i puna D-zeu sa nu scoata un Barcelona competitiv pentru ca ala le va fi sfarsitul pe piata procesoarelor.
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http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070410/advanced ... .html?.v=1

Mai multe informatii : se pare ca Intel a recastigat cota de piata semnificativa in Q1.Vanzarile AMD au scazut cu 28% dpdv al unitatilor , ceea ce este semnificativ.

Ca fapt divers Intel produce procesoare doar pe 65nm anul acesta , plus o mica parte pe 45nm.AMD produce majoritatea procesoarelor sale pe 90nm , in special cele de servere si modelele de varf.Trecerea la de la 90 la 65nm va avea loc in vara aceasta.
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Un articol "must read" pentru oricine care vrea sa inteleaga care va fi viitorul in industria de IT , in speta asa cum este vazut de Intel.

AMD nu a cumparat ATI doar de dragul de a o face , ci pentru a avea un raspuns la cercetarile Intel in privinta integrarii functionalitatii GPU in CPU.

Rezultatele mai multor ani ( cica de prin 2002 au inceput sa se uite serios la aceasta problema ) de cercetari a mii de ingineri si specialisti se vor vedea in prima parte a lui 2009 : proiectul Larrabee.

. 10+ small in-order (x86?) cores.
2. 4 threads per core.
3. 512-bit vector units.
4. VLIW instructions.
5. Big shared cache.
6. 90W power consumption.
7. 1.2TFlop of performance.
8. designed with "general processing" in mind.
9. >1TBs internal BW
10. >150GBs external BW


http://www.beyond3d.com/content/articles/31/1
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savantu wrote:Un articol "must read" pentru oricine care vrea sa inteleaga care va fi viitorul in industria de IT , in speta asa cum este vazut de Intel.
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http://www.beyond3d.com/content/articles/31/1
Savantu', cei interesaţi au citit deja din artcolul indicat de Neon Biker.

Să aşteptăm însă momentul când cei trei concurenţi, în speţă Intel, AMD şi Nvidia, vor veni cu noile soluţii pe piaţă. Până atunci o prezentare făcută prin facultăţi rămâne o prezentare şi atât. Vreau să văd tranzistori pe silicon şi mai ales soluţii software adaptate noilor arhitecturi.

PS: soluţiia Intel arată însă bine pe hârtie, insuficient dar necesar. :)
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Mda, interesanta prezentarea asa ca fapt divers, dar nu stiu cat mai este de actuala, daca a fost vreodata. Pe post de GPGPU probabil va fi OK, dar cei care se asteptau la ceva performante monstruoase in jocuri cred ca vor fi foarte dezamagiti. Din cate vad eu, dracovenia asta se bazeaza pe niste unitati vectoriale incredibil de mari (Vec16), care ar avea o eficienta foarte scazuta in jocuri. Tendinta GPU-urilor in ultima vreme este exact opusa. Astfel daca ne uitam la structura unui Pixel Shader Processor la ultimele 4 arhitecturi observam:
GeForce 6: 2 Vec4 ALUs
GeForce 7: 2 Vec4 ALUs + 2 Scalar ALUs
Radeon X1k: 2 Vec3 ALUs + 2 Scalar ALUs + 1 Branch Execution Unit
GeForce 8: 2 Scalar ALUs + 1 Branch Execution Unit

La GF 6 si 7 e mai complicat pentru ca acele ALUs sunt ingropate in pipeline impreuna cu unitatile de texturare si alte dracovenii (motiv pentu care nici nu pot fi folosite pe post de GPGPU), dar tendinta clara este de a trece de la unitati vectoriale complexe la unitati mai simple sau scalare si de la instructiuni simple la instructiuni complexe cu dynamic branching. In acest peisaj ar urma sa aterizeze Intel cu Vec16 ALUs [smilie=maniac.gif] ... I don't think so.
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"We are to small to talk about something so big" - acuma stiu ca ne dam cu parerile si aberam si noi dupa cunostintele noastre dar sincer, nici unul de aici nu cred ca are cea mai vaga idee despre ce se intampla in realitate, practic nici angajati de la AMD sau Intel nu stiu mare braza, desigur vorbesc de majoritatea angajatilor, sunt cativa "SUS" care mai prind cate ceva din deciziile importante, din experienta imi permit sa zic ca: Nici cei de sus nu au date sigure despre viitorul companiei, asta daca nu au ceva "baba cu bila si furuncul pe nas" acolo sus cu ei.

La niste companii in genul celor de mai sus lucrurile se misca dupa diferite planuri facute fara cap, ziceam mai sus de experienta - eu personal am avut ocazia sa vad cum se misca lucrurile in domeniul respectiv si sincer cand vine vorba de contracte legat de anumite componente intr-un timp limitat apar probleme, nervi, stres - you get the picture, asta stiu sigur doar am vazut cu ochii mei, fiecare companie este dependenta de alta la randul ei, oricat de mari ar fi nu-si permit sa produca toate piesele in cadrul firmei, sa nu mai zic de investitii care menajeaza o carare spre viitor sau aduc firmei mari probleme financiare de unde apar si intarzierile.

Sunt prea multe lucrui de luat in calcul, economia in cazul lor este un fel de hopa mitica, cand sus cand jos - dupa cum bate vantul, tot zicea savantul de Intel si siguranta sa pentru viitor dar trecutul zice altceva, daca aveau o viziune clara asupra lucrurilor, aparea procesoarele CoreDuo odata primele AMD64, de cele mai multe ori norocul este decisiv nu datele bazate pe teorii care rar sunt 100% corecte, una-i teoria si alta-i practica "NetBurst" este cel mai bun exemplu care poate confirma acest lucru.

Intradevar AMD nu a achizitionat ATi fara o idee legata de viitorul companiei, Multi CPU + Multi GPU - reprezinta viitorul, deci aici trebuie sa-i dau dreptate lui Savantu, in caz contrar ramaneau pe drumuri, sa nu uitam ca si ATi aveam probleme la vremea respectiva desi au produse mai potente in general, nVidia a stiu sa-si prezinte mai bine marfa, desigur cel mai mare bonus a fost "Graba de a lansa un produs" - nu au stat la slefuit si optimizat pentru un mic bonus de performanta, lucru vizibil destul de usor in generatiile precedente, chiar si cea actuala a fost lansata fara a lua in calcul toate aspectele, chiar si cu procese + clienti nemultumiti, pana-si permite ATi sa lanseze gama lor de produse scot baetii o avere din vanzari . ;)

PS.I'm sleepy, continui altadata. :)
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Până se trezeşte XSamSung aduc eu nişte lectură alternativă... :)

12 Aprilie, 2007
How Can AMD Be Fixed?
Intel and AMD are also competing with each other in every major market segment, McCarron said. "That really didn't happen until pretty much the last year," he said.

"They really went out and took too much share too quickly – they tried to get too big too fast," he said. "If you look at other major share battles – like Toyota's market share in the U.S. – most companies take it very slowly. They [Toyota] took 10 years to double their share. If AMD had taken the same approach, they might be in a very different position today."
"Make your solution different, go back to the fundamentals," Freedman said. "Sure, architectures are important, design methodologies are important, but Intel was smart. They designed a chip for the whole industry and have been able leverage that. AMD is still taking the tact that every market is a unique design. That's going to be a more expensive overhead system."
"Intel has succeeded in bloodying AMD's nose," Peddie said. "But it's not a knockout punch, and it sure as hell isn't a killer punch."
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Nu stiu daca ati observat, dar preturile la procesoarele AMD au scazut puternic in ultima saptamana, practic un AMD X2 5000 + ajungand sa coste mai putin ca un Intel Core Duo E6300. Oricum, asteptam si raspunsul de la Intel, pentru ca deocamdata preturile la AMD sunt mult mai atractive ca cele de la Intel, iar un AMD X2 5000+ are o performanta peste E6300 la frecvente standard.
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Urmeaza si Intel sa raspunda cu o runda de ieftiniri si noi modele (de fapt niste mici modificari).
Insa pana atunci un X2 3800+ are un pret fara rival.
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Da, la frecvente stock, momentan AMD pare competitiv din punct de vedere al raportului pret/performanta. Insa daca adaugi in ecuatie capacitatea de OC(cu un mare plus pentru Intel), cei pretentiosi tot spre "albastri" ar trebui sa se indrepte. ;)
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sa vedem vara daca dau verzii un sut in bilele albastrilor :d
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Un sut vor da, dar sa vedem daca nimeresc bilele. :)
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2hacku wrote:Un sut vor da, dar sa vedem daca nimeresc bilele. :)
Nu mai ziceti de bile ca deja ma dor (asta nu a fost o metafora), cum se face ca AMD si Intel isi dau unul la altul la bile si sufera clientii (barbatii desigur).

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K10 pentru desktop va aparea in Q4 , direct peste Penryn/Wolfdale.Sa vedem cine va da suturi cui...:))
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Un zvon :^o

fifty percent faster than Kentsfield


The K10 part codenamed Barcelona is up and running. It's not ready for launch, but AMD has already got parts ready and working.
We don't have many numbers but at least in specfp_rate2000 Barcelona ends up a bit less than 50 percent faster than Intel quad core codenamed Kentsfield.
We are quite sure that this is the best score but it definitely sounds impressive. AMD chaps are very confident that K10 marchitecture and native Quad core is the way to go and Intel will probably have to pay the price for duct taping its chips. AMD will come to collect in second half of 2007.
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O sursa a citatului ai ? Nu de alta, dar mi se pare un pic cam prea optimist autorul...
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SoboLAN wrote:O sursa a citatului ai ? Nu de alta, dar mi se pare un pic cam prea optimist autorul...
E un zvon, dacă îţi va oferi sursa nu-l va face mai credibil.
Cât despre scepticismul tău, este la fel de nefondat. :tongue3:
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moonwalker exista un zvon...cum ca eu sint frumos si destept...dar zoologi inca mai studiaza problema. Zvonuri sint multe (ca AMD da faliment, ca INTEL ii cumparat de AMD, ca guvernul roman nu-i corupt...etc) Multe-s aberatii...de asta, pina nu incepe a se mirosi ceva concret...valoare ii un 0 absolut.
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AMD a prezentat in decembrie un powerpoint in care era afisat la testul SpecFP2000_rate ( care de altfel este retras si inlocuit de 2006 ) cum ca un Barcelona va depasi un X5355 ( Cloverton 2.66/1066 ) cu 42%.

Nu se stie ce frecventa avea modelul presupus de K10 , insa se crede a fi 2.5GHz ( frecventa max la lansare )

SpecFP_rate a fost intotdeauna un test in care Opteronul se descurca excelent , chiar si acum K8 bate Woodcrest in testul respectiv.
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bolovan wrote:moonwalker exista un zvon...cum ca eu sint frumos si destept...dar zoologi inca mai studiaza problema.
Sper că vroiai să spui "sociologi".
bolovan wrote:Zvonuri sint multe (ca AMD da faliment, ca INTEL ii cumparat de AMD, ca guvernul roman nu-i corupt...etc) Multe-s aberatii...de asta, pina nu incepe a se mirosi ceva concret...valoare ii un 0 absolut.
Exact asta am afirmat şi eu, un zvon nu este credibil. Cu toate acestea, logica elemnetară spune că dacă declari un zvon ca fiind fals, afirmi contrariul susţinut de acel zvon, în cazul de faţă că Barcelona nu poate depăşi cu 50% Cloverton în SpecFP_rate. O astfel de afirmaţie lipsită de "ceva concret" este tot un zvon, aşadar cu "valoare 0 absolut".
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Evanghelia dupa AMD
Then the same day in Tunisia, being the second day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the C2Ds, came Jesus Derrick and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, "Pieces I bring unto you."

And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his Barcelonas and Agena FXs, and even 65nm R600s, with copies of selected benchmarks. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.

Then said Derrick to them again, "Pieces I have brought unto you: as Father Hector hath sent me, even so send I you."

And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, "Receive ye the AMD Spirit."

Derrick then said unto them, "Publish these not, for I have not yet cleared the NDA with my Father, but go to my brethren and say unto them, "We have seen the Lord and He has done mighty works."

But another reviewer was not with them when Derrick came.

The other disciples therefore said unto him, "We have seen the Lord and He has done mighty works." But he said unto them, "Except I shall see with my own eyes the FPS scores, and put my fingers onto the keyboard to run my benchmarks, and thrust my hand into His case to count the memory sticks, I will not believe."

And after some days again his disciples were within, along with the analysts and shareholders at the annual meeting, and the reviewer with them: then came Derrick, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, "Pieces I bring unto you."

Then saith he to the reviewer, Reach hither thy fingers, and behold my FPS scores and other benchmarks; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my case, and be not faithless, but believing."

And the reviewer and the analysts and the rest answered and said unto him, "My Lord and my God."

Derrick saith unto them, "Because thou hast seen these, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."

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Intel Unveils the Company’S Plan on Next-Generation Eaglelake Chipset
While Intel next-generation Bearlake (Intel 3 family chipset) has not been released, Intel has just announced its plan on another new generation chipset. Just has life of a year, Bearlake would be soon replaced by Eaglelake in Q208. HDMI and DisplayPort output connection are features in Eaglelake; while PCI-E 2.0 support would further put the standard into commonplace.

Eaglelake has two derivatives to be releasing in Q208, namely Eaglelake-P and Eaglelake-G. Similar to Bearlake, Eaglelake features support on 1333MHz FSB processors like 45nm Dual-Core Wolfdate and Quad-Core Yorkfield. On the other hand, instead of DDR3- 1066 support in P35 and G33, DDR3-1333 is further supported in Eaglelake. Since it’s estimated that DDR3 is put into commonplace not until 2009, DDR2 memory controller is still a build-in feature with a fully support at DDR2-800. In addition, ICH10 will be coupled with Eaglelake, while detail is not yet to tell.

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e foarte simplu, cand vrei sa achizitionezi un PC, te gandesti la ce il vei folosi, eu unul il tin online 24/24, deci din start nu imi puteam lua un AMD, pentru jocuri, si alte prostioare, AMD-ul e mai bun.

Desi la ora actuala un E6600 conroe e mult deasupra oricarui AM2 aparut pe piata, deja apare Q6600, si ma refer la un procesor accesibil de 1000 ron, nu la 6800 EE sau QE, care sare de 2000 ron.
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alios wrote:eu unul il tin online 24/24, deci din start nu imi puteam lua un AMD
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alios wrote:e foarte simplu, cand vrei sa achizitionezi un PC, te gandesti la ce il vei folosi, eu unul il tin online 24/24, deci din start nu imi puteam lua un AMD
Este un fapt cunoscut că după 23 de ore de operare continuă procesorul AMD dă semne de oboseală psihică, transpiră, înregistrează fluctuaţii necontrolate ale HTT-ului, erupţii acneice pe stratul de silicon şi pierderi temporare de memorie, mai ales din cache-ul L2. În aceste cazuri se recomandă odihnă la pat, linişte totală pe magistrale şi folosirea unui deodorant pe baza de aloe vera pentru emulsifiere.

Trecând peste glume, dacă te refereai la fiabilitate te înşeli, dacă te referi la consumul mediu de energie al platformei, subiectul e discutabil, mai ales pentru un sistem cu mari perioade de stat în stări semi-idle, unde tehnologia Cool'n Quiet concurează foarte eficient cu SpeedStep-ul de la Intel.
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alios wrote:eu unul il tin online 24/24, deci din start nu imi puteam lua un AMD
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pai creca in ritmu asta venice meu ar fi trebuit sa fie in coma legat la circuite ajutatoare. funny post ; Daca tot era sa ii cauti o hiba lu AMD ai fi gasit; In mom asta CHIAR AI FI GASIT.
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Intel announces "Core 2 Duo on steroids" - automatic overclocking
Intel today announced new details of its forthcoming Santa Rosa PC platform, including a significant revision of the Core 2 Duo chip.

"We call this processor Core 2 Duo but really it's Core 2 Duo on steroids. This microprocessor is going to be more powerful than the previous generation," said Intel's mobility chief, Mooly Eden.

The new chips will be able to overclock one of the cores if the other core is not being used.

"The idea is the following," explained Eden. "If you are running a single threaded application, one of the cores can go to sleep, and the left over power can be used by the other core - we give it a turbo boost; the ability to run faster than it used to.

"This is not overclocking. Overclocking is when you take a chip and increase its clock speed and run it out of spec. This is not out of spec. Here, it is within the spec of the dual-cores, we just identify when one core is not using the headroom and we give it to the other core.

"This is called Enhanced Dynamic Acceleration Technology. We've had problems implementing it, but we've been able to do it in Santa Rosa," Eden said.

The Santa Rosa platform also includes draft 802.11n for "whole house" high definition video streaming and Intel Turbo Memory - the flash cache memory that was previously codenamed "Robson". Intel demonstrated it in use showing two identical machines - one with Turbo Memory and one without - and the latter took twice as long to complete a photo processing task.

The Intel 965 graphics chipset is able to run Vista's Aero interface smoothly, though it will not support DirectX10 upon initial release - Intel has more work to do to implement it in the drivers.

"I'll make a claim and I'd like people to prove me that I am wrong: Centrino Pro technology is the best machine to run Vista," Eden said as a challenge to tech journalists attending Intel Developer Conference Beijing.

Eden said Santa Rosa would be available before the end of June - and refreshed in the first half of 2008 with the Penrin processor, Intel's upcoming 45nm processor.

Intel roadmap: to Santa Rosa and beyond!Intel roadmap: to Santa Rosa and beyond!

Eden conceded that Santa Rosa would not include the previously promised Nokia 3G module, because less than 10% of notebook users would ultimately buy it with their laptop.

"I believe I am the one to blame - I got on this stage and announced Intel would deliver a 3G solution with Nokia. I believe it is already announced that Nokia and Intel is not going to deliver it simply because of lack of return on investment. But there are people creating 3G solutions, but with a single digit attach rate, it is not worth it for us."
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Sa vina Barcelona , Intel are raspunsul pregatit... :)*



*Pe la colturi se sopteste 3.67GHz , prietenii stiu de ce...
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savantu wrote:Image

Sa vina Barcelona , Intel are raspunsul pregatit... :)*



*Pe la colturi se sopteste 3.67GHz , prietenii stiu de ce...
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Eliminand extremele, putem trage cateva concluzii in ceea ce priveste performanta average. Pentru o frecventa cu ~13% mai mare, FSB si cache marit, sporul de performanta este de aproximativ 25-30%.

Din pacate nu stim cum scaleaza cele doua procesoare in testele de fata, deci putem doar aproxima diferenta de performanta clock-per-clock intre Peryn si generatia actuala. Ea s-ar cifra la ~20% fata de oferta Intel de acum.

Avem detalii destul de razlete si despre Barcelona, iar valoarea aceea de 45-50% performance increase clock-per-clock mi se pare exagerata. Si Intel si-a ales benchmark-urile in aceasta prezentare, asa cum si AMD si le alege cand este cazul.

La o prima vedere, tind sa cred ca Peryn si Barcelona se vor situa aproximativ acelasi nivel la capitolul performanta generala, fiecare exceland in unele aplicatii.

Insa nu performanta ar fi problema arzatoare pentru AMD, ci frecventa. Aici Intel are clar castig de cauza. Verzii ar trebui sa faca minuni pe acest front daca vor sa ofere modele de top, pentru ca in conditiile unor arhitecturi aproximativ egale ca si performante, singurul lucru care le distinge este frecventa. Intel are acest avantaj. In aceste conditii, celor de la AMD le ramane sa umble din nou la preturi si "it ain't good for the budget". ;)

Un lucru ma bucura: brainiac CPUs sunt la putere. :d
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2hacku wrote:Insa nu performanta ar fi problema arzatoare pentru AMD, ci frecventa. Aici Intel are clar castig de cauza. Verzii ar trebui sa faca minuni pe acest front daca vor sa ofere modele de top, pentru ca in conditiile unor arhitecturi aproximativ egale ca si performante, singurul lucru care le distinge este frecventa. Intel are acest avantaj. In aceste conditii, celor de la AMD le ramane sa umble din nou la preturi si "it ain't good for the budget". ;)
Viitorul nu prea arată roz pentru AMD.

DAR... Dacă AMD va reuşi, din nou, să construiască procesoare care, la o frecvenţă ceva mai mică să bată procesoare Intel la o frecvenţă ceva mai mare, ar fi o nouă victorie de moral pentru verzi.
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Intel si-a anuntat rezultatele financiare pe Q1 2007.AMD va aface acest lucru joi.

Intel 1Q Profit Surges 19 Percent; Analysts Optimistic That Turnaround Is Working

SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) -- After enduring a brutal year of plunging profits and massive job cuts, Intel Corp.'s first-quarter profit surge and sunnier financial forecast has analysts optimistic that the chipmaker's painful turnaround is working.
The company said it earned $1.61 billion, or 27 cents per share, in the first three months of the year. That's a 19 percent jump from the company's net income of $1.36 billion, or 23 cents per share, in the same period last year.

Intel said revenue in the quarter was $8.85 billion, down slightly from last year's $8.94 billion. Analysts surveyed by Thomson Financial were expecting the company to earn, on average, 22 cents per share on nearly $9 billion in revenue.

In a sign of Intel's confidence in its ability to wring more profits from its processors, the company raised its closely watched gross profit margin forecast for 2007 to about 51 percent of revenues, about the same as last year's results but nearly 9 percentage points below 2005 levels. Analysts said Intel will not likely reach its lofty profit levels of several years ago because of increased competition from Advanced Micro Devices Inc.

Before the results were released Tuesday, Intel shares gained 29 cents, or 1.4 percent, to close at $20.98 on the Nasdaq Stock Market. The stock gained another 43 cents, or about 2 percent, in after-hours trading.
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''Intel likely gained 3 percentage points or less in market share compared to AMD in Q1,'' according to Isuppli. ''Not only are Intel's new-generation dual-core microprocessors chalking up gains, but the company is presently the only game in town in quad-core microprocessors, giving it an advantage over AMD, which presently doesn't have such a part shipping.''
Iar despre Barcelona :
...we will maintain lead in all segments.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070418/earns_intel.html?.v=3
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Iar despre Barcelona :
...we will maintain lead in all segments.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070418/earns_intel.html?.v=3
Fiecare "o stie pe-a lui". Intel sustine ca vor ramane lideri la capitolul performanta, AMD sustine contrariul. Ne vom lamuri la timpul potrivit.
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