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am calcu meu alon 64 3500 ci o paca asus gu retea giga pe ea, cipset 6150+430
si placa asta giga ce merge bine vreau sa o leg la un pentium unu cu 98 pe el si realtek 8029
pa atlon mai am si realtek 8139
pe atlon merg bine amindua,normal, am xp pe el dar,
pe p1 am avut cindva 8139 prin rds modem si a mers
acum fibra e pe atlon cu parola

ei bine nu reusesc sa fac pe p1 sa sa conecteze
de fapt am reusit o data azi dar tot nu ma mers netu pe el adica exploreru nu a incarcat, a zis ca nu se poate conecta la sever
m am ofticat si l am intalat iar
acu iar nu mai conecteaza , acuaering network nustuice si apoi o da in limited or no conectivity
ma gidesc si io ca nu ar trebui sa fie nici o filozofie sa se lege intre ele dar am dat de greu
am pus si 8139 pe p1 si l am instalat fara semne de exclamare sau intrebare si tot nu a mers

as vrea sa nu ajung sa cumpar ruter avind in vedere valoarea si performantele unui p1
dar nu inteleg ce trebuie sa ii mai fac sa mearga
poate aveti idee de vreun win 98 mai bun poate asta schimba ceva nu stiu dar oricum win 2000 nu buteaza pe p1
multumesc amticipat

deci in athlon ai doua placi de retea, da?
ok

athlonul il folosesti pe post de router, o placa de retea este conectata la rds si cealalta la P1, bunnn

Pentru Athlon:

1. Sheruiesti conexiunea rds (nu placa de retea conectata la rds)
2. Ii specifici ce retea se va conecta la net (respectiv a doua placa de retea care merge la P1)
3. Pui a doua placa de retea pe auto (sa isi ia IP automat)

Pentru P1:

1.Lasi placa de retea pe auto.

Pentru Limited or no conectivity ai la proprietatile placii de retea niste casute care trebuiesc bifate si debifate, sa iti arate status monitor ( o bifezi) si cealalta casuta este exact chestia cu Limited conectivity ( o debifezi).

Dai si tu niste restarturi si totul ar trebui sa fie ok.

Cam asta este in mare sheruirea netului pentru PPOE.
Asigurate ca ai cablu de retea pentru doua calculatoare nu pentru switch.

Adica crossover. In rest n-am citit ca-i greu de descifrat, insa cineva care se pricepe cat de cat s-ar putea sa-ti faca conexiunea usor. Totusi cred ca nu ai mai stat de mult pe net de pe un Pentium 1. O sa fie jale, o sa fumezi tigari in timp ce-ti incarca browseru', daca ai pretentii si de messenger o sa-si dea duhul.

cel mai bine e sa pui un linux SME Server pe acel p1... eu asa am facut, aveam de toate pe el, si server de mail pe dns-ul meu, si rootam netul in casa, print server, etc, super fiabil, nu aveam treaba cu el, puneam torrentele sa scoata, apoi de pe ftp le scoteam si eu.

ori rooter traditional pana in 150 lei, ori sme server

am sheruit
am conectat
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316276

mai e ceva
trebuie ca p1 sa se concteze cu parola sau nu?

danutz wrote:

Pentru Limited or no conectivity ai la proprietatile placii de retea niste casute care trebuiesc bifate si debifate, sa iti arate status monitor ( o bifezi) si cealalta casuta este exact chestia cu Limited conectivity ( o debifezi).

Asigurate ca ai cablu de retea pentru doua calculatoare nu pentru switch.

esti bun sa imi detaliezi si mie chestiile astea doua te rog?
de ce e asa de impotrant cablul?
eu am cablu de la modem-calculator,si de la casuta de internet/telefon la calculator. e bun? sau care e povestea cu crossover?

Nu sunt sigur daca casutele apar si in win98 la proprietatile placii de retea.
Ai zis ca ai net de la RDS da? Din ala cu telefon cu tot? Tu sa-mi zici.

Nu iti trebuie nici o parola pe P1, in momentul in care ai conectat Athlonul la net, adica ai dat click pe conexiunea de rds, P1 isi ia singurel IP.


Referitor la cablu, cablul de switch are altfel firele decat cel pentru doua calculatoare.

multumesc
ideea e ca merge dar din 3 cabluri merge doar cu unul care nu are in mufa legata decit patru fire
celelalte doua au toate firele legate
care e chestia nu am inteles
se aprinde led ul la conectarea oricarui cablu dar nu merge decit cu unul pe internet in p1

multumesc multumesc, dar nu trebuia sa va deranjati

deci pentru posteritate:

cablul intre doua calcularoare trebuie sa fie in felul urmator:
cu mufa tinuta in mia,cablul in jos, pinii inspre fata privitorului
se folosec doar 4 fire nu e nevoie de toate

AP P AV Al AbAl V M Ab M
1--2--3-----------6 firele folosite si nr lor de ordine unde nu scrie mimic nu se pun fire
3--6--1-----------2 cifrele reprezinta noua pozitie a firelor din prima mufa in ce de a doua


asa sfaturi aveam nevoie dar daca mi ati spus ca trebuie cablu intre doua calculatoare poate mai are nevoie cineva de informatia asta adica sa afle nu doar titlul din bibliografie
multumesc inca o data pentru intentia de a ma ajuta

La 1000base-T,trebuiesc toate cele 8 fire.
Au mai fost topicuri.Un search,mai destept,te putea salva mai devreme.

multumesc

Salut.
Vreau sa realizez o retea intre doua calculatoare. Primul calculator are Windows xp sp2 iar cel de al doilea calculator are Windows Vista premium. Am luat cablu crossover,am setat ip-urile 192.168.1.1 si Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 la primul pc , iar la cel de al doilea 192.168.1.2 si Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 , acelasi Workgroup. File and Printer Sharing este activat.
Ce setari mai trebuie sa fac? Mai trebuie sa setez ceva la Xp sau la Vista?? Totusi nu merge reteaua, calculatoarele nu se vad intre ele.
Multumesc.

Pe unul dintre compuri seteaza-l pe celalalt gateway/ dns; adica pe 192.168.1.2 setezi la gateway/ dns 192.168.1.1.
Se poate sa nu apara in My Network Places, insa poti intra cu Start> Run> "\\ip". Fara ghilimele.

Am si e o problema, am un laptop cu windows vista ultimate un desktop cu Windows Xp Sp2, si un cablu pc-pc (crossover)...si nu reusesc sa fac reteaua...poate sa-mi explice cineva pas cu pas? Multumesc.

setarea cablului crossover

1. Connect the crossover cable to the network connectors of both computers. You should see a tiny light coming up on the connector when the cable is well connected.
2. On the laptop, go to Start > Control Panel > Network Connections > Local Area Connection.
3. Right mouse click on "Local Area Connection", and select "Properties". The "Local Area Connection Properties" dialog box shows up.
4. Select "Internet Protocol(TCP/IP)" and make it checked.
5. Select "Internet Protocol(TCP/IP)" and click the Properties button. The "Internet Protocol(TCP/IP) Properties" dialog box shows up.
6. Select "Use the following IP address" and make it checked. Enter "192.168.0.1" in the IP address field. Enter "255.255.255.0" in the subnet mask field.
7. Click the OK button to close the "Local Area Connection Properties" dialog box.
8. Click the Close button to close the "Local Area Connection Properties" dialog box.
9. On the desktop, repeat step 2 to step 8 the same way as on the laptop except that entering "192.168.0.2" in the IP address field and entering "255.255.255.0" in the subnet mask field.
10. Open a command window and run the ipconfig and ping commands:

>ipconfig
Windows IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

>ping 192.168.0.1

Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

11. On my laptop, open a command window and run the ping command:

>ipconfig
Windows IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

>ping 192.168.0.2

Pinging 192.168.0.2 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.0.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

Very nice. My crossover cable network is working!

Note that:

Both computers are configured to static private network IP addresses. If you are taking the laptop back to an office network with dynamic IP address allocation, you need to change the settings on the "Internet Protocol(TCP/IP) Properties" dialog box.
"ipconfig" displays the connection status and settings of the network connection.
"ping" command is good testing tool to check if you reach a remote computer or not over the network.

Using FTP to Transfer Files

Now I have my two computers connected as a network, I can use FTP to send to receive files from each other:

1. On the laptop, use IIS (Internet Information Service) to set up a FTP server. See the "FTP Server and Client" chapter in this book for detailed information on how to set up a FTP server.
2. Copy files to be shared with the desktop to the c:\inetpub\ftproot directory.
3. On the desktop, run the ftp client in a command window:

>ftp 192.168.0.1
Connected to localhost.
220 Microsoft FTP Service
User (192.168.0.1:(none)): herong
331 Password required for herong.
Password: ********
230 User herong logged in.
ftp> quit
221

Cool. I can transfer files now FTP commands.

Assigning Host Names

Now my two computers are fully connected and working. But I have to address them by IP addresses, 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.0.2, when using any communication programs. Can I assign host names to my computers, and associate IP addresses with them? The answer is yes. Here is how:

1. On the laptop, go to Start > Control Panel > Systems. The "System Properties" dialog box shows up.
2. Go to the "Computer Name" tab and make sure "laptop" is in the computer name field.
3. Edit file c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts to add an entry for the desktop computer:

127.0.0.1 localhost
192.168.0.2 desktop

4. On the desktop, go to Start > Control Panel > Systems. The "System Properties" dialog box shows up.
5. Go to the "Computer Name" tab and make sure "desktop" is in the computer name field.
6. Edit file c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts to add an entry for the desktop computer:

127.0.0.1 localhost
192.168.0.1 laptop

7. Open a command window and run the ping command:

>ping laptop

Pinging laptop [192.168.0.1] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
...

8. On the laptop, open a command window and run the ping command:

>ping desktop

Pinging desktop [192.168.0.2] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
...


Sharing Files with Windows Explorer

Since my two computers are running Windows systems, I can also share files with Windows Explorer. Here is how:

1. On both laptop and desktop, go to Start > Control Panel > Network Connections > Local Area Connection.
2. Right mouse click on "Local Area Connection", and select "Properties". The "Local Area Connection Properties" dialog box shows up.
3. Make sure that "Client for Microsoft Networks" is checked.
4. On the laptop, go to Start > Programs > Accessories > Windows Explorer. The Windows Explorer shows up to allow you to manage all your directories, files and other storage resources on your computer.
5. Open the root directory c:, and a new sub directory called c:\share. Copy some files to this directory to share with the desktop computer.
6. Right mouse click on c:\share, and select "Properties". The directory properties dialog box shows up.
7. Go to "Sharing" tab. Select "Share this folder" and make it checked. Make to give permission to everyone with read and write rights.
8. Click OK to close the properties box.
9. On the desktop, go do Start > Run. The "Run" dialog box shows up.
10. Enter "\\laptop\share" in the Open field, and click OK. A Windows Explorer window shows up with the shared directory from the laptop computer open.
11. Enter "\\laptop\share" in the Open field, and click OK. A Windows Explorer window shows up with the shared directory from the laptop computer open.
12. Copy some files out of the shared directory into a local directory.
13. Copy some files into the shared directory out of a local directory.

sau vezi si acest tutorial: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/426/1

HerrMess wrote:Pe unul dintre compuri seteaza-l pe celalalt gateway/ dns; adica pe 192.168.1.2 setezi la gateway/ dns 192.168.1.1.
Se poate sa nu apara in My Network Places, insa poti intra cu Start> Run> "\\ip". Fara ghilimele.

De ce trebuie sa seteze gw si dns la calculatoare in acelasi subnet?
Nu e nevoie.
Daca setezi gw si dns,reciproc,nu rezolvi nimic.