SATA-II in Romania - cand?

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SATA-II in Romania - cand?

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Sunt interesat de un HDD SATA-II dar inca nu am vazut sa apara pe la noi. Chiar si pe-afara au aparut foarte timid - probabil ca urmare a lipsei suportului pe placile de baza - si din ce mi-am dat seama primul aparut ar fi Hitachi Deskstar 7k80 care e in jur de 60$.

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Avand in vedere ca 7K80 are capacitati extrem de mici pt zilele noastre (adica 40 si 80 G) iti recomand
T7K250 care are si marimi mai mari.

Din pacate la noi nu se stie nimic, singurul importator de Hitachi este Elsaco si cum ei aduc ceva doar din joi in pasti, raspunsul e ....... unul trist.

Si eu am vrut sa iau un T7K250, dar dupa ce am vb la Elsaco (care nici nu stiau ce este), am luat un 7K250. Cand o sa apara si alea cu T in fata o sa imi iau si eu (macar 2) sa le pun in raid ;)

Pana atunci doar asteptam :D
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HDD SATAII Hitachi de 80Gb http://www.aemd.ro/oferta.php

Pentru T7K250 mai e de asteptat :(
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Re: SATA-II in Romania - cand?

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john wrote:Sunt interesat de un HDD SATA-II dar inca nu am vazut sa apara pe la noi. Chiar si pe-afara au aparut foarte timid - probabil ca urmare a lipsei suportului pe placile de baza - si din ce mi-am dat seama primul aparut ar fi Hitachi Deskstar 7k80 care e in jur de 60$.

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The_Beast wrote:
john wrote:Sunt interesat de un HDD SATA-II dar inca nu am vazut sa apara pe la noi. Chiar si pe-afara au aparut foarte timid - probabil ca urmare a lipsei suportului pe placile de baza - si din ce mi-am dat seama primul aparut ar fi Hitachi Deskstar 7k80 care e in jur de 60$.

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gasesti aici
Nu gasesc in oferta in pdf nici un HDD pe SATAII, #-o
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Intend nu are SATA 2. Invatati ce e aia SATA2 si apoi spuneti :!:

Ala de la AEMD e OK, dar e mic :( Eu astept t-ul :D ca sa se completeze cu astea 2 fara T care le am :D le fac pereche 2 cu 2 :D
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cucukozma wrote:
The_Beast wrote: gasesti aici
Nu gasesc in oferta in pdf nici un HDD pe SATAII, #-o
WTF ? deci serios spun acum ca de vreo 2 saptamani avea sata-2 cu NCQ
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The beast daca zici ca avea sata2 cu ncq inseamna ca :
ERA UN HDD SEAGATE CU NCQ dar cu sata1 si au scris aia prost - presupunand ca, chiar ai vazut .

PS.la hdd-urile sata2 e redundant sa mai scrii ca au NCQ
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o mai tinem mult asa ?
ce motiv as avea sa spun baliverne
am vazut cu ochii mei
daca aia baga dume ii problema lor nu a mea
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Sau la 100giga.ro Samsung 200 GB. 7200 rpm SATA2-300 8MB 3 ani garantie 377lei noi!!
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adryan2 wrote:Sau la 100giga.ro Samsung 200 GB. 7200 rpm SATA2-300 8MB 3 ani garantie 377lei noi!!
e clar greseala de tipar !

nici pe site la samsung nu se lauda cu asa ceva . iar pe 100 nici nu zice ce serie e, asa ca ..... !
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The_Beast wrote:WTF ? deci serios spun acum ca de vreo 2 saptamani avea sata-2 cu NCQ
Nu, n-au avut. Nu la intend ai vazut. Am toate ofertele lor de la 1 feb incoace, no such a thing.
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Au lansat si cei de la WD-ul HDD SATA 2 !!!!!

Sper sa ajunga rapid si in Romania !!!

Mi se par cele mai bune hdd la ora actuala.....
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Decebalus wrote:Sper sa ajunga rapid si in Romania !!!.
Rapid - depinde de ce intelegi prin acest rapid. Avand in vedere ca de abia a fost lansat - nici macar afara la vanzare nu este.

Dar daca tot vorbim despre SATA2 stie careva controllere pe PCI cu minim 4 porturi care sa aiba SATA2 + aferentele raid etc. Sau o placa de baza, ceva...
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Marmota wrote:
Decebalus wrote:Sper sa ajunga rapid si in Romania !!!.
Dar daca tot vorbim despre SATA2 stie careva controllere pe PCI cu minim 4 porturi care sa aiba SATA2 + aferentele raid etc. Sau o placa de baza, ceva...

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a venit si de 160 SAT II Hitachi: http://www.aemd.ro/oferta.htm [smilie=Victory.gif]
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Hmm, nice nice !
si pretul e ok ;)

Acum oare gasim si controllere pt sata 2 :D (nu MB ;) )
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2 hdd 80G S-ataII RAID sau 1 de 160G S-ataII

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As avea bani de 2 hdd 80G S-ataII.
Acum ma intreb cum e mai bine? 2 hdd 80G S-ataII RAID sau 1 de 160G S-ataII.
Cost/G e mai ieftin 160, dar la viteza parca e mai bine 2x80 RAID.
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Eu e sfatuiesc la 1*160Gb daca e singurul HDD din calc. Daca mai ai unu deja, poti sa-ti iei 2*80Gb si sa le pui in RAID. Viteza a doua HDD-uri sata in raid e foarte buna, dar treaba cu raidul e cam problematica daca nu le ai dact pe cele doua hdduri pe sata in calc.
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Au ajuns si la Flamingo wd-urile sata2... iar pretul e aproa

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Au ajuns si la Flamingo wd-urile sata2... iar pretul e aproape identic cu cel sata1...
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Am si eu o intrebare legata de SATA II: pot folosi un rack SATA I pt. un HDD SATA II? Practic cablul de date e acelasi si pt. SATA I si SATA II?
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Da, sunt compatibile.
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de ce vreti sata II numai voi stiti . diferenta intre sata si sata II e aproape inexistenta !
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executrix wrote: diferenta intre sata si sata II e aproape inexistenta !
Diferenta de performanta dintre un HDD SATA I si un altul SATA II este inexistenta in momentul de fata. Cam asa trebuia sa te exprimi, ca din ce ai zis tu se intelege altceva. Diferenta dintre SATA II si SATA I sunt 300 MB/s fata de 150MB/s , NCQ, Hot-plug. etc, deci nu ii chiar inexistenta ;)
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Post by drankon »

sa-mi spui ce rata de transfer o sa ai pe un hdd SATAII ... nu te incalzeste cu nimic ca are 300MB/s ca oricum abia trece de 30MB/s .
NCQ aveau si unele Seagate si Maxtor si la SATA I.
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Nu ai inteles nimica. Am zis si eu ca intre HDD SATA I si HDD SATA II nu o sa vezi diferenta de performanta. Ma refeream la standardul SATA I si II.
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cimi wrote:Am zis si eu ca intre HDD SATA I si HDD SATA II nu o sa vezi diferenta de performanta.
In this test the Hitachi's spank the Raptors in a good way. Its is truly sad, but also convincing enough to see that SATA II is really the way to go! Wow, very impressive results!
Wow! Simply stunning performance, almost double of what the Raptor is capable of. I am at a loss of what to say. These drives perform like nothing I have even seen. Given that ATTO32 is a typical SCSI benchmark I would have to say that my own familiarization with SCSI has now been unlearned. I don't even see why anyone can try to compare this kind of performance to anything!
My overall thoughts are that I plan on waiting in line to buy a few more of these drives! I cannot imagine what RAID 0+4 would be like! This is one of the many reasons to make sure you are using one of the latest motherboards! SATA II has to be an option on your motherboards chipset to see any kind of performance increase like we have witnessed here. These are miracle drives considering that they almost double the performance of the Raptor especially with larger files. For approx $135 street price you need to go out and grab a couple of these drives for your NF-4 board! ClubOC recommended!
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Cred ca si eu am fost putin neclar. Ca sint compatibile banuiam, dar cel putin teoretic poti obtine un transfer de 300MB/s folosind rack-ul cu cablul SATA1 sau pe asta "incap" maxim 150 MB/s?
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Evident ca nu poti scoate apa din piatra seaca. Transfer de peste 150 MB/s o sa ai doar in rafala. (burst)
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y0py, y0py... cred si eu ca 2 harduri de 250 in raid 0 sunt mai rapide decat in raptor singur (a se citi "spank")... nu mai induce lumea in eroare.. trebuia sa precizezi asta in postul tau...

Uite un alt test: Sunt situatii unde un SataII e mai rapid, intr-adevar, decat un Raptor (vezi system boot time), dar nu poate fi "double of what the Raptor " intr-o configuratia 1 vs. 1. Iar intre SATA1 si SATAII nu e nici o diferenta notabila de performanta (mai mult la file copy si, evident, la burst read rate): link -si urmatoarele:
At least as far as the Deskstar T7K250 is concerned, 300MB/s transfer rates are pretty much a bust. The faster interface speed enables marginally quicker file copies in FC-Test and much higher burst speeds, but has essentially no impact on boot and load times, IOMeter, WorldBench, and the remainder of the FC-Test suite. The T7K250 simply can't sustain a high enough transfer rate to take advantage of the faster interface unless it's bursting out of its 8MB cache. I can't help but wonder if the drive might have reaped greater performance benefits from a 300MB/s interface had it been endowed with a larger 16MB cache.
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My bad, am uitat sa mentionez acest "insignifiant" aspect. :laughing6: Still, progresul este inevitabil.
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Ce se mai aude cu hardurile SATA 3Gb/s cu NCQ ? Am vazut ceva Samsung la 100giga (omul nu raspunde sa aflu mai multe detalii) si pe site-ul Seagate e prezent noul Barracuda 7200.9 (Sata 3Gb/s, 16 MB Buffer), l-a vazut cineva pe la noi in magazine?
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