Sincer,eu imi mentin parerea,nimic nu m-a dat pe spate:
1280x960 AA 2x,AF 4x, VSync,maxim + soft shadows






1280x1024,AA 2x maxim, fara VSync




Nimeni nu zice ca nu am avut si 40-50-60 fps-uri!
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_________________OK to start off, my system specs are as follows:
C2D E4300 @ 3.4 w/ Ultra 120
2 GB OCZ PC-4200 3-3-3-12
2x160 GB Seagate 7200.9
BFG 8800 GTS @ 640/940
2 monitors @ 1280x1024 each
So, based on reviews, my C2D gets about the same performance as a stock X6800 and my 8800 GTS should be getting the same performance or better then a stock 8800 GTX.
To do my tests I used FRAPS and 1 minute benchmarks. The test is done from a replay of a 2v2 game in Fields of Isis with a unit cap of 750 units. All tests are with the game at normal speed. I have the anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall all turned off. Most of the startup things were closed.
Note: I started the game off (nothing except the commander) at 30 fps.
The game's settings are:
Background Image: Off
Fidelity: High
Shadow Fidelity: Medium
Anti-Aliasing: 4x
Texture Details: High
Level of Detail: High
V-Sync: Off
Test 1
- 320 units in total (myself and my partner).
- nothing happening except a few units moving and things being built.
- both screens zoomed out max.
Min FPS: 9
Max FPS: 14
Avg FPS: 12.100
Test 2
- 60 tech 1 land units battling it out and some air (20 units) battle it out.
- main screen zoomed in, second one zoomed out completely.
Min FPS: 4
Max FPS: 8
Avg FPS: 5.583
Test 3
- air battle.
- about 70 air units.
- main screen zoomed in, other one zoomed out completely.
Min FPS: 2
Max FPS: 7
Avg FPS: 3.650
Test 4
- 800 units from both players (including buildings).
- most of them just standing there, some moving, things being built.
- both screens zoomed out max.
Min FPS: 2
Max FPS: 10
Avg FPS: 4.517
I did fast forward the game to get to these specific points in the game and it seems to have slightly degraded performance even when I went back to regular speed but in general I was seeing around 5 fps during live battles (while I was playing the actual game).
Now this is completely unplayable. According to this: http://www.gamespot.com/features/6166198/p-5.html I should be getting 17 FPS with the 8800 GTS stock (they have essentially the same system, considering my overclocked 4300). So I would really like recommendations as to what I can do to increase performance. I would expect that having a video card performing as well as the fastest card on the planet, having one of the best CPUs around and awesome memory would allow for me to play at max settings.
Note: I have the latest video card driver installed... they haven't updated the drivers since January 10th
Iar la mine ejust had ibuypower.com build me a system. good prices and phenominal performance. only thing is dont waste money paying for 3 day rush. they NEVER build systems on time though, but you do get a good system.
intel core 2 duo e6600
8800 gtx
150gb wd raptor 10,000 rpm
evga 680i motherboard
coolermaster aqua gate liquid cooling
raidmax katana gaming tower
2gb Geil ddr2 800 ram
system cost me 2200 and i get 140,000 in aquamark3 and 10,900 in 3dmark 06
and by the way, thats without overclocking
Posted Mar 25, 2007 6:51 pm PT
Ok, ai demostrat ca jocul ala pute si pe cele mai performante systeme, acuma daca te uiti pe net, sunt multi cu probleme similare deci clar nu e Placa Grafica vinovatul principal, scorul in 3D Mark este aproape acelasi ca si la persoana citata - ai aici: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=179987 diferite scoruri care atesteaza acest lucru, vrei scor in 3D Mark baga OC (ai sanse mari sa-l duci stabila la 4 Ghz - daca ai racire buna), ex: Geforce 8800 GTX @ 656/965mhz - Core 2 Duo @ 3.780ghz - 8800gtx @ 656/965 Scor - 12440.andreiclawhammer wrote:1.MixMaster ai sau nu pozele in fata?Eu in viata mea nu am pus mana pe un procesor AMD,nu sa le fac reclama la R600!
2.Sistemul meu e cel putin la fel de bun ca al tau(ma rog teoretic ca poa sa fie ceva in neregula cu el)Sunt chia curios cate fps-uri scoti tu in FEAR sau Supreme Commander
3._________________OK to start off, my system specs are as follows:
C2D E4300 @ 3.4 w/ Ultra 120
2 GB OCZ PC-4200 3-3-3-12
2x160 GB Seagate 7200.9
BFG 8800 GTS @ 640/940
2 monitors @ 1280x1024 each
So, based on reviews, my C2D gets about the same performance as a stock X6800 and my 8800 GTS should be getting the same performance or better then a stock 8800 GTX.
To do my tests I used FRAPS and 1 minute benchmarks. The test is done from a replay of a 2v2 game in Fields of Isis with a unit cap of 750 units. All tests are with the game at normal speed. I have the anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall all turned off. Most of the startup things were closed.
Note: I started the game off (nothing except the commander) at 30 fps.
The game's settings are:
Background Image: Off
Fidelity: High
Shadow Fidelity: Medium
Anti-Aliasing: 4x
Texture Details: High
Level of Detail: High
V-Sync: Off
Test 1
- 320 units in total (myself and my partner).
- nothing happening except a few units moving and things being built.
- both screens zoomed out max.
Min FPS: 9
Max FPS: 14
Avg FPS: 12.100
Test 2
- 60 tech 1 land units battling it out and some air (20 units) battle it out.
- main screen zoomed in, second one zoomed out completely.
Min FPS: 4
Max FPS: 8
Avg FPS: 5.583
Test 3
- air battle.
- about 70 air units.
- main screen zoomed in, other one zoomed out completely.
Min FPS: 2
Max FPS: 7
Avg FPS: 3.650
Test 4
- 800 units from both players (including buildings).
- most of them just standing there, some moving, things being built.
- both screens zoomed out max.
Min FPS: 2
Max FPS: 10
Avg FPS: 4.517
I did fast forward the game to get to these specific points in the game and it seems to have slightly degraded performance even when I went back to regular speed but in general I was seeing around 5 fps during live battles (while I was playing the actual game).
Now this is completely unplayable. According to this: http://www.gamespot.com/features/6166198/p-5.html I should be getting 17 FPS with the 8800 GTS stock (they have essentially the same system, considering my overclocked 4300). So I would really like recommendations as to what I can do to increase performance. I would expect that having a video card performing as well as the fastest card on the planet, having one of the best CPUs around and awesome memory would allow for me to play at max settings.
Note: I have the latest video card driver installed... they haven't updated the drivers since January 10th
4. In caz ca nu minte...
Iar la mine ejust had ibuypower.com build me a system. good prices and phenominal performance. only thing is dont waste money paying for 3 day rush. they NEVER build systems on time though, but you do get a good system.
intel core 2 duo e6600
8800 gtx
150gb wd raptor 10,000 rpm
evga 680i motherboard
coolermaster aqua gate liquid cooling
raidmax katana gaming tower
2gb Geil ddr2 800 ram
system cost me 2200 and i get 140,000 in aquamark3 and 10,900 in 3dmark 06
and by the way, thats without overclocking
Posted Mar 25, 2007 6:51 pm PT
Nu stiu ce sa zic
nu am zis ca nu e mult...e mult dar..pt Romania...si deja incepe sa fie moderat si aici..pt ca din ce in ce mai multi isi permit si isi si cumpara...din punctul asta de vedere vorbeam...si repet..un pc scump...sau foarte scump numesc gama high end de la Dell XPS...speram sa fiti de acord cu mine..gabe_racer wrote: @MixMaster-probabil nu toata lumea are banii tai si sa considere ca 90 de milioane nu e mult pentru un calculator(oricare categorie ar fii el low-end/high end/ultra ...).Cu ~30 mil. iti poti face la ora actuala o configuratie pe Core 2 pe care sa joci orice titlu aparut in conditii mai mult decat decente.(Aici exceptand jocuri gen G3 ,prost optimizate care necesita ~3 GB ram pt o rulare perfecta)
Mda,pai aici e problema, cum imi dau seama daca placa video e defectaaaaaaa?strikerr wrote:@andreiclawhammer : cred ca mai bine ar fii sa te calmezi...sa bei un suc si sa mai te plimbi prin parc decat sa faci probleme cu inima de la atata nervi. Ti sa raspuns deja la problema ta :ori ai probleme cu placa,ori e jocu prost finisat, ori ai tu un fleer pt discutii in contradictoriu. Oricum daca ai dat prea multi bani pe un PC care nu merită e invatatura de minte pt viitor...daca ai un joc prost optimizat nu-l mai joci si eviti developerul pe viitor si daca ai nervi prea multi in general bea un ceai de tei. peace!
Prison rape is the deterrent for me not to commit crime.
Si de unde fac rost de inca o placa 8800 gtx...hmm sa incerc la firma...hai ca mi-ai dat o idee.XSamSung wrote:Incearca o placa similara (8800 GTX) dar sub alta sigla (BFG, Gainward, etc) si vezi cum se misca.Mda,pai aici e problema, cum imi dau seama daca placa video e defectaaaaaaa?
Sa le folosesti sanatos, eu am gresit,nu am stiut ca sunt si modelel Dominator la 800 MHz.MixMaster wrote:memoriile sunt exact cele din semnatura 2 x 1024 Mb DDR2 800 Mhz Corsair Dominator DHX EPP 4-4-4-12 PC6400 ...si..astea sunt frecventele standard ale lor...nu le-am modificat deloc...nu am nevoie...iti atasez si poze cu ele...se poate vedea exact modelul si spec...sunt ok..parerea mea..si ca performanta si ca pret...
Edit: dar de ce intrebi? ca vad ca ale tale sunt mai bune...nu?sunt cele la 1066 parca...corecteaza-ma daca gresesc..
1. E gresita formulare,sper ca asta sa fie mai buna:"Eu in viata mea nu am pus mana pe un produs al brand-ului AMD,nu sa le fac reclama la R600!"Pantsless wrote:Nu ai inteles. Nu era vorba de procesoare, ci de placi video. AMD a cumparat ATi, asa ca noile chipseturi grafice R600 compatibile DX10 apartin lui AMD.andreiclawhammer wrote:Eu in viata mea nu am pus mana pe un procesor AMD,nu sa le fac reclama la R600!
Mhmmm...sa testez sistemul cu 3dmark06 vreo 6 ore in continuu...been there,done thatstrikerr wrote:andreiclawhammer wrote:
Mda,pai aici e problema, cum imi dau seama daca placa video e defectaaaaaaa?
Ti sa raspuns pe topicul dedicat creat de tine.Daca citesti mai atent o sa vezi
Am inteles ca tot 8800 gtx,ca doar nu is imbecil,da ma gandeam sa iau cumava evga,sau BFG,sau sa stau sa apara G90-ul si apoi sa o schimb?Ghetto_64 wrote:Bro, nu ai înteles. Îţi schimbi GTX-ul pe alt GTX. Nu contează firma în mod special. Ok Ok numai Asus să nu fie.Nu de alta dar e mai scumpă şi se uită lumea la tine ciudat crezând că ţi-ai luat skateboard la cât e de mare cutia.
Caută im XFX, BFG sau Gainward. Dacă nu merge şi acelaşi Leadtek.
Deci cum stai cu temperaturile? sau e secret?
Ghetto_64 wrote:Nu e nevoie să aştepti nimic. Te duci cu ea frumos de unde ai luat-o şi le spui că nu merge la adevarata ei putere. Ei ţi-o schimbă.
Placa are probleme de fabricaţie în mod cert, am păţit-o la o scară mult mai mică (7600 GT care nu mergea nici ca un 6600 GT plus caldura excesivă). Şi apoi o să te poţi bucura de puterea adevarată a unui 8800 GTX.
LE: Everest Ultimate Edition sau chiar din driver-ul video (click dreapta pe desktop/properties/settings/advanced/8800 GTX şi vezi acolo la Temperature).
Nu are sens sa investesti in QX6700 8900GTX/R600 avand in vedere ca la configuratia ta nu ar trebui/nu ai probleme in 90% din noile jocuri, ce zic sa faci e sa cumperi frumos o consola si sa vinzi tot ce ai,jocurile vor arata bine si vor rula la un minim de 40FPS + ai o groaza de jocuri in avampremiera printre care si noul GTA.andreiclawhammer wrote:1.Magazinul respectiv este varza si are adresa la http://www.bene.ro,DAR aduce orice componenta doresti( a se vedea configuratia sistemului meu)
2.Cred ca se poate schimba placa,dar atunci ce sa fac,sa astept pana apare 8900GTX sau chiar 8950GX2 si sa o schimb cu una din aia?
3.Daca nu atunci ce sa fac,astept sfaturi concrete va rog,cat mai repede daca se poate!fa aia si aia,nu ca daca iei asta cum o sai aia,si apoi nu merge aia,dati-mi un sfat exact du-te si ia placa X sau Y!
4.Sincer daca ma duc cu placa acuma inapoi cred ca imi dau inapoi banii de 2000RON.
OFF-Topic de exemplu la inceput eu nu am fost hotarat ce procesor sa imi iau,si l-am ales pe asta pentru frecventele superioare,dar aia mi-au spus ca daca vin inapoi cand vreu imi schimba procul cu QX6700-ele si platesc o dif minora,gen 150RON
Dar eu trebuie sa vin cu argumente solide care sa sustina faptul ca placa e stricata,iar eu in afara de faptul ca nu imi place cum merge nu am alt argument!
La mine merge cam in 40 de fps-uri si este cateodata cand scade sub 30chiril wrote:eu am x2 3800/asrock/1.5 gb ddr2 800/gigabyte 7900 gs, nustiu cum ruleaza la un 8800 dar la mine cu toate optiunile video la maxim (cu AA cu tot) cu iluminare (nustiu cum sa zic caci am versiunea rusa a jocului, are 3 nivele[statica,dinamica,dinamica completa]) eu am pus dinamica completa (cand si pasarile au umbra) si merge cu 32-40 fps si uneori ajunge la 26 fps.
Eh hai sa fim seriosi,poti sa iei o placa refurbished si de la alte magazine daca tot e sa o iei,plus ca ei nici nu aduc placi din astea(adica high-end,ca nu se renteaza),ci au comandat de la un furnizor care aduce,ala care e importatorul oficial Leadtek in Romania...mha rog nu zic ca nu poti sa ai dreptate...strikerr wrote:cam ciudat magazinul de unde ai luat...sper ca nu tzepuiesc cu placi refurbished. Oricum nu cred ca tu tiai putea da seama daca nu stiai sa vezi temperatura la placa. E un risc cand cumperi de la unele magazine neverificate. Nu zic ca asta sa intamplat..dar e o posibilitate