
http://www.arenait.net/2007/04/16/1569/
si am mai vazut ceva interesant pe site-ul de la advanced micro devices: http://www.amdassets.com/comparison/ o fi ceva mai mult decat marketing la mijloc? auch ce or sa sara acum in sus cei cu coreduo

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Parca scria ca voltajul a fost usor modificat, dar oricum arata bine, foarte bine... prea bine si daca stau sa ma gandesc vine de la fudzillaOntopic: OC la 3Ghz la voltaj default pentru K8L nu suna deloc rau.
Şi din punctul meu de vedere cade ipoteza conform căreia AMD a fost nevoit să lanseze modele cu frecvenţe scăzute datorită dificultăţilor de ordin consum/temperatură. Rămâne posibilă o altă variantă, anume că frecvenţele respective sunt de ajuns ca produsul să fie competitiv. Asta ar fi o veste bună, dar are nevoie de confirmări mai concrete decât un screenshot cu un egineering sample la 3Ghz.2hacku wrote:Ontopic: OC la 3Ghz la voltaj default pentru K8L nu suna deloc rau.
Nu urasc de loc AMD ( de unde chestia asta ?XSamSung wrote:..
Nu era o grija era o observatie, nu am nimica cu Savantu, doar e pasiunea lui, de curiozitate: - ce are el cu AMD, inteleg ca a fost candva peste Intel dar asta sa fie motivul principal pentru care uraste acest brand? (asta numai el ne poate raspunde).![]()
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http://www.overclockers.com/tips01141/Ed wrote: The really bad news was what the AMD execs had to say about all this last night. They really didn't seem to know what to do other than keep doing what they've been doing, just a bit less of it....
Maybe the best way to put that conference call in a sentence is that it all seemed like smoke and mirrors from people who really didn't have anything really good to say and were just going through the motions.
What was most shocking about the results wasn't so much the loss, anybody sane knew it was going to be bad, but how it happened. A big chunk of their sales volume just vapored like that.
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It seems somehow unreal that Intel actually did so much damage all of a sudden just doing what they've done for the last year or so. It's like pinking somebody in the forehead and a few times, then seeing them fall to the ground dead after the third pink.
Maybe I'm seeing things, but there seems to be something very serious and very wrong going on here, more than we know or can surmise.
For the first time, I really doubt AMD is going to make it, at least not in anything like the form it is today. There was something untypically very lifeless behind the words, not quite rearranging chairs on the Titanic, more like "we're not going to be running the ship much longer."
Da de unde , piata nu functioneaza asa.XSamSung wrote:Savantule tu esti constient ca daca AMD ajunge scrum, Intel fiind singur la greutatea sa pe piata isi face din nou de cap de-si pierde lumea interesul, se intoarce vremea Celeroanelor ca nimeni nu-si va mai permite restul modelelor cu preturi care depasesc vreo 1500 Ron, cui crezi ca-i mai pasa de performanta, daca ajungem la astfel de vremuri Intel va deveni o companie "Tabu" cand vine vorba de scule potente: Look but do no touch (you can't afford to...), ziceai tu undeva ca te lasi de postat cand da Intel faliment, eu zic ca te lasi si daca da AMD - fiind cel mai mare fan de pe forum la cat ai inaltat compania o sa ajungi hulit daca se adeveresc scorurile.
asa e, doar avem si alte exemple de firme care detin monopol si nu se complac si nici nu abuzeaza de cumparatori.. firme cum ar fi Microsoft, nu?Asa ca , stai calm , si fara AMD , Intel nu s-ar complace , ar creea chestii noi si interesante , pur si simplu pentru a se mentine daca nu extinde.
pompiliu92 wrote:Dar eu nu ma refeream sa le vindem gratis,am si spus mai sus sa le vindem pe profit
http://www.247wallst.com/2007/04/amds_18_billion.htmlAMD's $1.8 Billion Voodoo Financing Announcement
What's the best thing to do when you are in the midst of losing a price war THAT YOU STARTED? Go convince Main Street that you can win what you have been losing if they will loan you more money to throw into the fire....
That is just what Advanced Micro Devices (AMD-NYSE) is doing, and if you believe after reading through this that it is a good financing then we have a bridge to sell you. The company is raising $1.8 Billion in convertible senior notes, and the convertible (strike) price will be at roughly 3-times the stock price and is planning a price cap on these, WITH YOUR MONEY. The interest rate, conversion price and other terms of the notes will be determined by negotiations between AMD and the initial purchasers of the notes. Please read on over the capping and use of proceeds.
AMD expects to enter into capped call transactions which are intended to reduce the potential dilution to AMD's common stockholders upon any conversion of the notes. The capped call transactions are expected to have a strike price that matches the conversion price of the convertible notes at approximately three times the closing price of its common stock on the date the capped call transactions are executed.
Look at the USE OF PROCEEDS: AMD expects to use a portion of the net proceeds of the offering to pay the cost of the capped call transactions. If the initial purchasers exercise their option to purchase additional notes, AMD expects to use a portion of the net proceeds from the sale of additional notes to enter into additional capped call transactions. AMD expects to use at least $500 million of the remaining net proceeds of the offering to repay a portion of the term loan AMD entered into with Morgan Stanley Senior Funding, Inc. to finance a portion of the purchase price of, and expenses related to, the acquisition of ATI Technologies Inc. AMD expects to use any amounts not applied to the repayment of the term loan for general corporate purposes, including working capital and capital expenditures.
When you read things like this, it is hard to wonder just how the investment bankers that came up with the deal were able to keep a straight face while trying to get the company to do it. More importantly, you have to wonder if the brokers selling this won't be hitting the mute button when they call clients so the clients can't hear them laughing.
The good news is that this is 144A, so it is unregistered and only available for select institutions. That will keep Joe Q. Public from taking one on the chin as far as being able to buy this offering, but it also means the institutions just got a more ratcheted place in line as a creditor if or when this heads further south. The stock's high over the last two years is $40.00+, and shares closed at $14.04 today. In after-hours trading shares are down almost 3%, and that's a good indication that this one can't be trusted. Maybe the company will get its feet back and maybe it won't, but this one is a classic example of voodoo financing at its best.
This one also probably makes any truth to rumors that Applied Materials (AMAT-NASDAQ) wanted to buy it further from likely. When you take on debt to pay some debt and enter financing transactions, that's just leverage for the sake of leverage.
Dragul meu esti o permanenta provocare intelectuala pentru copii de 15 ani,tocmai din acest motiv imi permit ca uneori(foarte rar) sa te necajesc cu zvonuri rautacioase.Van Helsing , parca vazui un post cu asemenea timpenii pe blogul lui Sharikou....ne faci placerea sa pui un link cu "zvonul" ? Stii , zvonurile sunt spuse de oameni din industrie , analisti , cei cu contacte .
Visele umede ale unora de 15 ani care sunt mai fanatici decat HitlerJugend reprezinta doar o risipa de spatiu de stocare.
Completare: când s-au făcut împrumuturile au circulat tot felul de zvonuri răutăcioase privitoare la situaţia economică a companiei, chiar şi în ziare de profil considerate serioase. M-am confruntat chiar eu cu oameni care "ştiau ei" că zilele CONNEX erau numărate, asta în condiţiile în care aveam informaţii din interior că balanţa de plăţi a companiei era cât se poate de sănătoasă. (nu informaţii ultrasecrete dealtfel, dar le-am menţionat pentru a sublinia că cine dorea putea să afle adevărul)van helsing wrote:PS:Acum 3-4 ani Connex a imprumutat bani pentru a plati unele datorii scadente la alte banci,acum au devenit Vodafone... =D>
Concluzie la ce? O analogie şi nişte zvonuri? Or fi dulci, dar sunt zaharină.Amethyst_Eye wrote:deci in concluzie ati cu r600 o sa ingroape nvidia cu seria 8 a lor iar amd cu barcelona o sa ajunga iar no. 1
N-ai inteles absolut nimic din ce am scris , la cine ma refeream , etc...van helsing wrote:Dragul meu esti o permanenta provocare intelectuala pentru copii de 15 ani,tocmai din acest motiv imi permit ca uneori(foarte rar) sa te necajesc cu zvonuri rautacioase.Van Helsing , parca vazui un post cu asemenea timpenii pe blogul lui Sharikou....ne faci placerea sa pui un link cu "zvonul" ? Stii , zvonurile sunt spuse de oameni din industrie , analisti , cei cu contacte .
Visele umede ale unora de 15 ani care sunt mai fanatici decat HitlerJugend reprezinta doar o risipa de spatiu de stocare.
Comparatia cu HitlerJugend cred ca era mai degraba o privire retrospectiva in oglinda a inteleptului fara de aparare din spatele tastelor.
Apasa butonul sistem@Van Helsing si citeste cu atentie cele necesare.Sunt convins ca te-ai saturat de aceasta miscare care evident este in defavoarea intelepciunii tale.Ma consider o persoana echilibrata care niciodata nu ar tasta pe un forum de IT fraze de genul 'Visele umede ale unora de 15 ani care sunt mai fanatici decat HitlerJugend reprezinta doar o risipa de spatiu de stocare' si tocmai din acest motiv am sa te ignor.
PS:Acum 3-4 ani Connex a imprumutat bani pentru a plati unele datorii scadente la alte banci,acum au devenit Vodafone... =D>
Tot ce a obtinut in 2 ani a pierdut in 3 luni...Intel's share of the $30 billion market for x86 processors that power most personal computers was 80.5 percent in the first quarter, according to Mercury Research, a market tracking firm whose data are closely watched by the industry.
That represented a gain of more than 6 percentage points from the 74.4 percent Intel had in the fourth quarter.
Intel's gain came at the expense of Advanced Micro Devices Inc., which saw its share fall to less than 20 percent for the first time since 2005, Mercury said.
AMD had gained share steadily since 2005, rising from 21.4 percent in the fourth quarter of that year to 25.3 percent a year later, thanks to chips that ran faster and used less energy than Intel's.
In a frenzy of changes by major processor manufacturers, Advanced Micro Devices, which is one of them, should have the biggest effect over its faithful audience, changing the Athlon brand name.
Seems like AMD is going to rename the Athlon brand which they have used thus far, in exchange for Phenom. Based on this, the derivatives for AMD’s processors might be Phenom X2, Phenom X4 of Phenom FX. That is if they are to keep the FX series, and not rename this as well.
In the light of the extremely secret conference AMD is holding in Tunisia, where they will show or at least talk about their new line of processors, AMD Agena, Barcelona, and their line of graphics cards, the ATI Radeon HD/R600 series, AMD is bound to either strike gold, or go broke. At this conference, there has been talk of Non Disclosure Agreements (NDAs) which were almost forced upon all of those journalists present there. Those whom weren’t “persuaded” into signing such agreements, were politely asked to leave, which makes all of us waiting-for-almost-two-years-for-this wonder ‘why all this secrecy?’.
Nu comentez!Totul ar fi doar o risipa de argumente lipsite de suportul ascultatorului...Iar tie ti se aplica de minune replica pe care a dat-o Patriciu zilele trecute lui Talpes...
Daca asta se va intampla nu cred ca ar mai fi decat un pas pana cand AMD isi va vinde pielea...Intel plans to takeo ver SOITEC.
This company is one of the world's largest SOI wafer suppliers and a key partner of AMD - Chimpzilla buys almost all of its wafers from this shop.
Până şi Inq., zvonac profesionist, atenţionează că este doar un zvon.myx4ever wrote:Daca asta se va intampla nu cred ca ar mai fi decat un pas pana cand AMD isi va vinde pielea...
de acord cu tine serifu, insa orice poveste are si un dram de adevar. Sunt de acord ca e doar zvon, dar acum Intel poate chiar ca se gandeste la asta. Daca ar vrea sa le-o da sub centura ( a se citi la <> ) cam asta ar fi metoda. Ca in orice razboi intai dai dupa poduri si power plants. Asa si aici...ce atata lupta pt perf, suprematie, % din piata. Le iei cascavalu si i-ai lasat cu ochii in soare.IL Dotore wrote:Voi chiar credeti ca IBM si AMD vor lasa Intel sa le ia singurul suplier de wafere SOI? Sa fim seriosi...(mai manaca si la r#*&% astia de la Inq din cand in cand).
Cute... but it's WROOOONG !!! Ce crezi ca Bill Gates are averea aia de (sub ) 50mld $ intr-o pusculita? Think again...AndreiD wrote:La banii aia, si Bill Gates poate sa cumpere Yahoo daca se chinuiemyx4ever wrote: Revenind cu picioarele pe pamant, e un zvon destul de interesant. Alaturi de ala ca Microsft vrea Yahoo Inc.( evaluat la > 50 mld $)
It was a joke...myx4ever wrote:Cute... but it's WROOOONG !!! Ce crezi ca Bill Gates are averea aia de (sub ) 50mld $ intr-o pusculita? Think again...AndreiD wrote: La banii aia, si Bill Gates poate sa cumpere Yahoo daca se chinuie
Nu am inteles de ce Ht la Phenom X2 e mai mare decat la PhenomX4 ; Se doreste sa ramana "loc " si pt urm X4 mai potente?Predator X wrote:Specificatii AMD X4 Quad Core:
AMD Quad Core Stars
"At the top with the AMD Phenom X2 2.8 GHz model, the HT 3.0 bus clocks in at 4.2 GHz"
E ceva...! =D>