Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
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Alert, m-am plictisit. As fi vrut sa-ti dau ban direct da-ti mai dau o sansa. Ultima. Foloseste-o cu grija.
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
Sa stii ca si eu. Nu ma intereseaza daca sunt banat de pe XPC, poti sa ma dai afara chiar acum, sa stii ca am asteptat momentul asta.burebista wrote:Alert, m-am plictisit. As fi vrut sa-ti dau ban direct da-ti mai dau o sansa. Ultima. Foloseste-o cu grija.
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
Nu e clar din arhitectura care este pe acelasi principiu cu G92. Nu e clar din performante, unde Gtx 280 este batutaSi de unde sti tu toate astea?
uneori de 9800Gx2, nu e clara concluzia, tu zici ceva de genul ca cei de la Nvidia asa au planuit sa faca o placa
care sa fie batuta de 9800gx2.
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bazat in mare parte pe vechiul G92, care idem bazat in mare parte pe batrunul G80, cu aceeasi centenari GDDR3
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
Si R700 este bazat pe R600 care face parte din aceasi generatie de chipuri grafice cu G80. Pana una alta sa nu uitam ca GTX280 este peste ce are ATI la momentul actual ca solutie single GPU. Deci, din punct de vedere arhitectural GT200 este peste RV770.
LE.
Si RV770 are avantaje fata de GT200 cum ar fi consumul si caldura degajata mai mici, dar asta nu prea tine de arhitectura procesoarelor grafice ci de procesul lor de fabricatie.
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Si RV770 are avantaje fata de GT200 cum ar fi consumul si caldura degajata mai mici, dar asta nu prea tine de arhitectura procesoarelor grafice ci de procesul lor de fabricatie.
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
Si din punctul de vedere al pretului este mult peste.
Nu la performanta, unde este cu numai 25-30- 0% mai bun.
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In mare da, dar fata de GT200, RV700 aduce mai multe imbunatatiri. Iar numarul SP-urilor a crescut cu 5x (320 vs. 1600), fata de nVidia care nici nu a reusit sa dubleze procesoarele grafice. (128 vs. 240)andreeak wrote:Si R700 este bazat pe R600 care face parte din aceasi generatie de chipuri grafice cu G80.
Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
E foarte adevarat, ATI cu al lor RV770 e mai aproape de GT200 decat era R600 fata de G80. Personal, la momentul actual, as alege o solutie ATI in detrimentul uneia nVidia si regret ca am dat o caruta de bani pe un GTX280. Diferenta de performanta dintre cele doua nu se reflecta si in diferenta de pret.Alert wrote:In mare da, dar fata de GT200, RV700 aduce mai multe imbunatatiri. Iar numarul SP-urilor a crescut cu 5x (320 vs. 1600), fata de nVidia care nici nu a reusit sa dubleze procesoarele grafice. (128 vs. 240)
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
A început lumea să se trezească la realitateandreeak wrote:[...] Personal, la momentul actual, as alege o solutie ATI in detrimentul uneia nVidia si regret ca am dat o caruta de bani pe un GTX280. Diferenta de performanta dintre cele doua nu se reflecta si in diferenta de pret.


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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
da,ca sa aiba raport calitate-pret bun si sa se merite cumparata(in detrimediul lui 4870 sa zicem) ar trebui sa fie sub 10 mil.Deocamdata 9800GX2-ul ramane best buy-ul placilor high end.Ati o luase pe drumul cel bun cand ajunsese 505ron 4850-ul si 740ron 4870-ul,insa,in loc sa scada preturile cum ar fi normal le-au crescut cu 30-40 ron
Nu stiu daca Ati le-a crescut din cauza vanzarilor enorme si din cauza intarzierii raspunsului din partea nvidiei ori mai probabil le-au crescut escrocii de importatori,care fac preturile cum vor ei.In mod normal Euro a scazut,deci normal era si preturile sa scada.
Iar pt cei care bolboroseau ceva de micro-stuttering fara cunostiinta de cauza,sa le zic cate ceva.Am vorbit cu SAMBA,care a avut un GX2 pana acum o saptamana,iar acum are SLI de 9800GTX+ si a zis ca nici vorba de asa ceva la GX2 sau la SLI-ul actual si ca astea sunt "basme"

Iar pt cei care bolboroseau ceva de micro-stuttering fara cunostiinta de cauza,sa le zic cate ceva.Am vorbit cu SAMBA,care a avut un GX2 pana acum o saptamana,iar acum are SLI de 9800GTX+ si a zis ca nici vorba de asa ceva la GX2 sau la SLI-ul actual si ca astea sunt "basme"

Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
Dacă ar apărea şi în 3D Mark micro-stuttering-ul chiar că ar fi nasol...
Aveam ms şi cu un HD3870, dar probabil nu toţi îl pot sesiza.

Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
Nu inteleg ce mare agitatie cu placile astea ati. Tocmai am luat un Asus 4870 si po sa zic ca nu sint deloc impresionat. Nu am apucat sa fac mari teste ,doar crysis cu gpu test, cod4 , UT3. In crysis scoate o medie mai buna decit vechiul meu 9800gtx , insa minimum fps e identic. COD 4 testat cu fraps, ochiometric asa, merge usor mai bine iar UT3 merge identic, cu aceleasi caderi de fps ca 9800gtx.
Mi se pare si normal sa aiba preturi mici placa asta din moment ce abia abia bate un 9800gtx, care costa la fel.
Ca sa nu mai vb de racirea foarte proasta si zgomotoasa. Cu ventilatorul pe stock , sta la peste 70 grade in idle , iar in sarcina sare de 90 lejer. Cu ventilatorul pe 60% = jet engine . Acu o tin la 45% si tot e cam zgomotoasa, da macar e rece placa.
Ca de obicei , in ultimi 2 ani, ati nu poate tine pasul cu Nvidia, doar cu pretul ala mic se pot lauda, in rest ... nimic special.
Mi se pare si normal sa aiba preturi mici placa asta din moment ce abia abia bate un 9800gtx, care costa la fel.
Ca sa nu mai vb de racirea foarte proasta si zgomotoasa. Cu ventilatorul pe stock , sta la peste 70 grade in idle , iar in sarcina sare de 90 lejer. Cu ventilatorul pe 60% = jet engine . Acu o tin la 45% si tot e cam zgomotoasa, da macar e rece placa.
Ca de obicei , in ultimi 2 ani, ati nu poate tine pasul cu Nvidia, doar cu pretul ala mic se pot lauda, in rest ... nimic special.
Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
Nu fama sa rad si eu am un ASUS 4870 si deabia se aude , doar cand porneste calculatoru e turat ventu pt o secunda ca sa-si faca testele, in rest e f silent ![Read-FAQ [smilie=Read-FAQ.gif]](./images/smilies/Read-FAQ.gif)
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
Acum depinde şi de rezoluţie, jocuri, filtre AA şi AF samd.tntthegod wrote:Nu inteleg ce mare agitatie cu placile astea ati. Tocmai am luat un Asus 4870 si po sa zic ca nu sint deloc impresionat. Nu am apucat sa fac mari teste ,doar crysis cu gpu test, cod4 , UT3. In crysis scoate o medie mai buna decit vechiul meu 9800gtx , insa minimum fps e identic. COD 4 testat cu fraps, ochiometric asa, merge usor mai bine iar UT3 merge identic, cu aceleasi caderi de fps ca 9800gtx.
Mi se pare si normal sa aiba preturi mici placa asta din moment ce abia abia bate un 9800gtx, care costa la fel.
Ca sa nu mai vb de racirea foarte proasta si zgomotoasa. Cu ventilatorul pe stock , sta la peste 70 grade in idle , iar in sarcina sare de 90 lejer. Cu ventilatorul pe 60% = jet engine . Acu o tin la 45% si tot e cam zgomotoasa, da macar e rece placa.
Ca de obicei , in ultimi 2 ani, ati nu poate tine pasul cu Nvidia, doar cu pretul ala mic se pot lauda, in rest ... nimic special.

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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
eu vad ca e diferenta destul de mare intre 4870 si 9800GTX http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=20 .La 1680x1050 GTX-ul are 30 cadre,4870 are 35,iar in Call of Duty e diferenta si mai mare,64 fata de 99 cadre la 4870.De fapt e diferenta de 15-30% cam in toate jocurile vad,iar diferenta se va mari o data cu drivere noi.Parerea mea este mai mult ca sigur ca ai procesor care tine placa pe loc.Ca sa nu fie limitate 8800GT spre ex are nevoie cam de 3Ghz(stiu pt ca am),9800GTX cam de 3,3 banuiesc,iar 4870 de mai mult de 3,5.Asa ca da-i bice la procesor si baga catalystul 8.7 in cazul care nu-l ai deja.tntthegod wrote:Nu inteleg ce mare agitatie cu placile astea ati. Tocmai am luat un Asus 4870 si po sa zic ca nu sint deloc impresionat. Nu am apucat sa fac mari teste ,doar crysis cu gpu test, cod4 , UT3. In crysis scoate o medie mai buna decit vechiul meu 9800gtx , insa minimum fps e identic. COD 4 testat cu fraps, ochiometric asa, merge usor mai bine iar UT3 merge identic, cu aceleasi caderi de fps ca 9800gtx.
PS:Ghetto_64 si eu am avut micro-stuttering cu 8800GTS G80 si cu 8800GT,dar numai in NFS Carbon.Era super deranjant.Restul jocurilor au mers fare probleme.Culmea este ca varului meu,care are 7300GT ii mergea jocul brici

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Palit 4850 Sonic, imi pare cea mai buna 4850 cu cooler custom, mai buna ca Toxic, si creD ca si mai ieftina =D>
http://forum.palit.biz/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=196
50C idle, 76C cu Fur 5 min =D>
3 Phase VRM pentru Gpu si unul pentru memorii
685 CORE si poate merge pana la 735 =D>
Asta ca sa nu mai rada nimeni de firma Palit
Asteptam si 4870 SONIC
Coolerul si mai bun si mai tacut....mult mai quiet
http://forum.palit.biz/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=196
50C idle, 76C cu Fur 5 min =D>
3 Phase VRM pentru Gpu si unul pentru memorii
685 CORE si poate merge pana la 735 =D>
Asta ca sa nu mai rada nimeni de firma Palit

Asteptam si 4870 SONIC

Coolerul si mai bun si mai tacut....mult mai quiet

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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
aici gresesti,8800GT nu scaleaza asa cu procesorul, un x2 3800+ stock merge foarte bine cu 8800GT, cel putin la 90% din capacitatea sa,daca nu ma crezi intreaba-l pe burebistaCosmin_NFS wrote:eu vad ca e diferenta destul de mare intre 4870 si 9800GTX http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=20 .La 1680x1050 GTX-ul are 30 cadre,4870 are 35,iar in Call of Duty e diferenta si mai mare,64 fata de 99 cadre la 4870.De fapt e diferenta de 15-30% cam in toate jocurile vad,iar diferenta se va mari o data cu drivere noi.Parerea mea este mai mult ca sigur ca ai procesor care tine placa pe loc.Ca sa nu fie limitate 8800GT spre ex are nevoie cam de 3Ghz(stiu pt ca am),9800GTX cam de 3,3 banuiesc,iar 4870 de mai mult de 3,5.Asa ca da-i bice la procesor si baga catalystul 8.7 in cazul care nu-l ai deja.tntthegod wrote:Nu inteleg ce mare agitatie cu placile astea ati. Tocmai am luat un Asus 4870 si po sa zic ca nu sint deloc impresionat. Nu am apucat sa fac mari teste ,doar crysis cu gpu test, cod4 , UT3. In crysis scoate o medie mai buna decit vechiul meu 9800gtx , insa minimum fps e identic. COD 4 testat cu fraps, ochiometric asa, merge usor mai bine iar UT3 merge identic, cu aceleasi caderi de fps ca 9800gtx.
PS:Ghetto_64 si eu am avut micro-stuttering cu 8800GTS G80 si cu 8800GT,dar numai in NFS Carbon.Era super deranjant.Restul jocurilor au mers fare probleme.Culmea este ca varului meu,care are 7300GT ii mergea jocul briciNu stiu,probabil era ori ceva de la drivere sau mai probabil avea ceva kitul jocului pe care l-am "cumparat" de pe un torrent.

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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
Şi ce ţi se pare ciudat aici? Dacă placa n-are cine să-i dea de lucru normal că şomează. Tu crezi c-ar mai fi schimbat cineva vechile Athlon-uri şi Duroane dacă situaţia era alta? ![maniac [smilie=maniac.gif]](./images/smilies/maniac.gif)
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
spune doar ca diferenta de 10-15% dintre 4800 si geforce 8 se datoreaza in mare parte limitarii cpu-ului, lucru pe care l-am simtit si eu overclockand chiar putin E8400 pe o 4850.
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
Si eu cand am zis ca exista, neah - e bun si un Duron la 800 Mhz combinat cu HD 4850.
De mers merge acceptabil si cu un E2160 la 3 Ghz, cum e si cazul meu, dar in combinatie cu un E8400 la 4 Ghz parca totul se misca mult mai fluent - Desigur, acolo unde sunt cerinte. 
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
Atunci era vorba despre diferenţa ce-o face mărimile diferite de cache L2, nicidecum de diferenţa de viteză "fizică" între celede două procesoare, de 30%, adică 1 GHz ![maniac [smilie=maniac.gif]](./images/smilies/maniac.gif)
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
Gresit, era vorba de ce-i suficient pentru HD 4850, iar eu am dat doua exemple pe care unii le-au luat in gluma.calin_banc wrote:Atunci era vorba despre diferenţa ce-o face mărimile diferite de cache L2, nicidecum de diferenţa de viteză "fizică" între celede două procesoare, de 30%, adică 1 GHz

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ATI HD4870 & HD4850 Crossfire & Mixed Crossfire Performance Review (@HardwareCanucks)
un review care mi se pare profi,nu s-au jenat sa scrie 2 pagini despre posibile probleme
performanta buna in CfX,dar care cere un procesor foarte puternic
un review care mi se pare profi,nu s-au jenat sa scrie 2 pagini despre posibile probleme
performanta buna in CfX,dar care cere un procesor foarte puternic
loc de recclama....
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
XSamSung wrote:Gresit, era vorba de ce-i suficient pentru HD 4850, iar eu am dat doua exemple pe care unii le-au luat in gluma.calin_banc wrote:Atunci era vorba despre diferenţa ce-o face mărimile diferite de cache L2, nicidecum de diferenţa de viteză "fizică" între celede două procesoare, de 30%, adică 1 GHz
Păi nu era chiar atât de greşit. Normal că până la o anumită frecvenţă o placă video de nouă generaţia va fi într-un fel ori altul limitată, cu atât mai mult cu cât este vorba despre viteze diferite de operare a unui procesor, care contează mult mai mult faţă de cantitatea de cache L2.
Anywho, marea diferenţă între actualele plăci şi cele ceva mai vechi (adică un 8800GT de ex.), este performanţa în AA care o trimite ceva mai în faţă, dar care nu zice : "sari cu upgrade-ul bre!" (fără un spor de 40-50% nu prea merită upgrade-ul decât în cazuri excepţionale). În situaţia de faţă când sunt plăci atât de perfromante le preţuri mici, poţi sări peste o generaţie liniştit.
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MSI lets loose the 'Super OC' GeForce GTX 280
"Probably not happy with the clocks achieved with its first factory-overclocked GeForce GTX 280 (N280GTX-T2D1G -OC), MSI went back to the drawing board and returned with plans for the N280GTX-T2D1G Super OC."
"Probably not happy with the clocks achieved with its first factory-overclocked GeForce GTX 280 (N280GTX-T2D1G -OC), MSI went back to the drawing board and returned with plans for the N280GTX-T2D1G Super OC."
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
Cum se face ca euro a scazut in ultimile 2 saptamani iar preturile placilor cu 4850 este in crestere de la aparitie in loc de scadere??Motivul?

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AMD's HD 4870 X2 Launches Tomorrow - NVIDIA's Worst Nightmare
http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-039- ... 1742.shtml
Citat: "[...] The result is nothing short of a graphics monster ready to take on any of the latest high-end games with the help of its 1600 Stream processors. The card is expected to feature 2GB of GDDR5 graphics memory [...]"


http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-039- ... 1742.shtml
Citat: "[...] The result is nothing short of a graphics monster ready to take on any of the latest high-end games with the help of its 1600 Stream processors. The card is expected to feature 2GB of GDDR5 graphics memory [...]"



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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
Pai asa fac comerciantii nostri, nu tre' sa traiasca si ei... saraciibarosanu89 wrote:Cum se face ca euro a scazut in ultimile 2 saptamani iar preturile placilor cu 4850 este in crestere de la aparitie in loc de scadere??Motivul?![]()
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
HD4850 and 4870 vs GTX260 and 280
TechSpot wrote:Clearly the GeForce GTX 260 is a superior performer when compared to the Radeon HD 4850, though when you take value into account the performance vs. price ratio is very close.
The Radeon HD 4850 did cop a hiding in Company of Heroes and Unreal Tournament, where it was on average 53% and 48% slower, respectively. However games like Crysis, saw the GeForce GTX 260 produce smaller leads.
Heavily reducing prices of the GeForce GTX 200 series was a smart and necessary move by Nvidia, who reacted very quickly to the storm brought by the AMD/ATI team. Now at $399 the GeForce GTX 280 does very well compared to the $299 Radeon HD 4870. Certainly we are waiting to see how the dual GPU Radeon HD 4870 X2 can perform and how it will compete in pricing against the GTX 280 or anything else Nvidia decides to throw at it.
Those on more of a strict budget will love what the Radeon HD 4850 has to offer at $199, and when it comes to ultimate gaming value this one is hard to beat.
The real clash today between the GeForce GTX 260 and the Radeon HD 4870 ended up with no definite winner. Nvidia and ATI fans can argue all day, but there is no real way to settle it, unless of course you hand pick the benchmarks to your preference. Where the Radeon HD 4870 falls down a bit is on its idle power consumption and operating temperature levels, though the most hardcore enthusiasts will find this a non-issue when installing a relatively cheap aftermarket cooler.
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Palit HD4870 X2 @HardwareCanucks.
the HD4870 X2 2GB is the absolute undisputed king of the single-card hill and probably will be for some time. It steamrolled over every single one of Nvidia’s offerings like a runaway freight train and made the GTX 280 look like nothing more than an also-ran in the grand scheme of things. But just remember: this isn’t a card for those of you with 19” or 20” LCD monitors. It is for the privileged few with massive monitors of the beastly 24” and 30” variety along with those of you who want e-penises the size of the Eiffel tower.
The HD4870 X2 does not deserve to be put in a non-overclocked system with an under-24” monitor. This means that if you are playing at a slightly lower resolution, you have the very real possibility of this card being severely CPU limited if you don’t overclock the balls off your processor. Just remember this when you are searching through the internet for more information about this card; in many cases, a stock processor can and will hamstring ATI’s new wunderkind in many cases. Heck, even our overclocked QX9770 at nearly 4Ghz showed it wasn’t up to the task of running with this card in a game or three.
All in all, the Palit Radeon HD4870 X2 is a heck of a card which combines not only bleeding-edge performance but a surprising amount of performance per dollar. It is all bundled up into a product which once again adds ATI’s name to the very top of the extreme performance category. Even though it is not without its minor imperfections, it embodies the new spirit of ATI which is once again on the road to offering enthusiasts what they want most: performance like no other.
$550 la ei. Cine trece cu vederea caldura si zgomotul si are un procesor potent alaturi de o placinta de monitor cit peretele si-a gasit placa video perfecta.
the HD4870 X2 2GB is the absolute undisputed king of the single-card hill and probably will be for some time. It steamrolled over every single one of Nvidia’s offerings like a runaway freight train and made the GTX 280 look like nothing more than an also-ran in the grand scheme of things. But just remember: this isn’t a card for those of you with 19” or 20” LCD monitors. It is for the privileged few with massive monitors of the beastly 24” and 30” variety along with those of you who want e-penises the size of the Eiffel tower.
The HD4870 X2 does not deserve to be put in a non-overclocked system with an under-24” monitor. This means that if you are playing at a slightly lower resolution, you have the very real possibility of this card being severely CPU limited if you don’t overclock the balls off your processor. Just remember this when you are searching through the internet for more information about this card; in many cases, a stock processor can and will hamstring ATI’s new wunderkind in many cases. Heck, even our overclocked QX9770 at nearly 4Ghz showed it wasn’t up to the task of running with this card in a game or three.
All in all, the Palit Radeon HD4870 X2 is a heck of a card which combines not only bleeding-edge performance but a surprising amount of performance per dollar. It is all bundled up into a product which once again adds ATI’s name to the very top of the extreme performance category. Even though it is not without its minor imperfections, it embodies the new spirit of ATI which is once again on the road to offering enthusiasts what they want most: performance like no other.
$550 la ei. Cine trece cu vederea caldura si zgomotul si are un procesor potent alaturi de o placinta de monitor cit peretele si-a gasit placa video perfecta.
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
DFI Motherboard Owners….Take Note
You may not believe it but we had much, much more planned for this review but unfortunately our DFI motherboard conspired to haunt us again and again. Other than the fact that our LanParty DK X38 T2R decided to mysteriously give up on our very slight memory overclock, it refused to cooperate when we installed the HD4870 X2 into it. An ASUS X48 P5E Deluxe worked without a hitch, as did a Gigabyte EP35 and ASUS P5Q Pro so we knew it wasn’t the chipset and had read of these same things happening to owners of the HD3870 X2 when pairing that card up with certain DFI boards.
Basically, what happened was that we installed it into the board and a BIOS splash screen would not display even though the LED indicators told us everything was booting fine. There just wasn’t any video signal coming through the card so we somehow deduced that there was an issue with the X2’s display output. Well, we popped in the second HD4870 X2 card and lo and behold, had the same issue. Somewhere within the ensuing flurry of BIOS flashes, the motherboard decided enough was enough and finally died leaving us without a board and an approaching deadline.
To cut a long story short, we brought in another DK X38 T2R along with a beastly LanParty LT X48 T2R and found both new boards to have the same video display issue so we immediately knew that it was the board itself and not the card. After searching through the DFI Beta site, a BIOS was found that completely resolved the problem with the incompatibility between the motherboard and the HD4870 X2.
At this time we have only experienced problems with DFI’s X48 and X38 boards. The P35 and P45 series seem to be fine but if you are having problems with either of these chipsets, please post in our HD4870 X2 comment thread and we will try to sort things out.
You may not believe it but we had much, much more planned for this review but unfortunately our DFI motherboard conspired to haunt us again and again. Other than the fact that our LanParty DK X38 T2R decided to mysteriously give up on our very slight memory overclock, it refused to cooperate when we installed the HD4870 X2 into it. An ASUS X48 P5E Deluxe worked without a hitch, as did a Gigabyte EP35 and ASUS P5Q Pro so we knew it wasn’t the chipset and had read of these same things happening to owners of the HD3870 X2 when pairing that card up with certain DFI boards.
Basically, what happened was that we installed it into the board and a BIOS splash screen would not display even though the LED indicators told us everything was booting fine. There just wasn’t any video signal coming through the card so we somehow deduced that there was an issue with the X2’s display output. Well, we popped in the second HD4870 X2 card and lo and behold, had the same issue. Somewhere within the ensuing flurry of BIOS flashes, the motherboard decided enough was enough and finally died leaving us without a board and an approaching deadline.
To cut a long story short, we brought in another DK X38 T2R along with a beastly LanParty LT X48 T2R and found both new boards to have the same video display issue so we immediately knew that it was the board itself and not the card. After searching through the DFI Beta site, a BIOS was found that completely resolved the problem with the incompatibility between the motherboard and the HD4870 X2.
At this time we have only experienced problems with DFI’s X48 and X38 boards. The P35 and P45 series seem to be fine but if you are having problems with either of these chipsets, please post in our HD4870 X2 comment thread and we will try to sort things out.
Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
Cine eu? Ei bine am avut azi de dimineata o surpriza neplacuta cu cateva coduri de eroare(75&7F) care s-a rezolvat pana la urma. Pe placa mea am biosul 714 deci nu m-as mira daca voi avea si eu problema aia.DjDaLiu wrote:DFI Motherboard Owners….Take Note
You may not believe it but we had much, much more planned for this review but unfortunately our DFI motherboard conspired to haunt us again and again. Other than the fact that our LanParty DK X38 T2R decided to mysteriously give up on our very slight memory overclock, it refused to cooperate when we installed the HD4870 X2 into it. An ASUS X48 P5E Deluxe worked without a hitch, as did a Gigabyte EP35 and ASUS P5Q Pro so we knew it wasn’t the chipset and had read of these same things happening to owners of the HD3870 X2 when pairing that card up with certain DFI boards.
Basically, what happened was that we installed it into the board and a BIOS splash screen would not display even though the LED indicators told us everything was booting fine. There just wasn’t any video signal coming through the card so we somehow deduced that there was an issue with the X2’s display output. Well, we popped in the second HD4870 X2 card and lo and behold, had the same issue. Somewhere within the ensuing flurry of BIOS flashes, the motherboard decided enough was enough and finally died leaving us without a board and an approaching deadline.
To cut a long story short, we brought in another DK X38 T2R along with a beastly LanParty LT X48 T2R and found both new boards to have the same video display issue so we immediately knew that it was the board itself and not the card. After searching through the DFI Beta site, a BIOS was found that completely resolved the problem with the incompatibility between the motherboard and the HD4870 X2.
At this time we have only experienced problems with DFI’s X48 and X38 boards. The P35 and P45 series seem to be fine but if you are having problems with either of these chipsets, please post in our HD4870 X2 comment thread and we will try to sort things out.
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
Mi-a venit ieri HD4850 si iata primele impresii, ca tot se discuta aici despre limitarea de la procesor (am un X2 4450e @2.5GHz):
CoD4 1.7 Multiplayer, totul la maxim, 4xAA 16xAF, 1680*1050 - 70-80 fps cu minime de 50-60 pe mai toate hartile (Mai putin Killhouse unde scade un pic, deh, servere de 50 de jucatori); cu 12xCSAA 40-50 fps, scaderi spre 30, iar cu 24xCSAA 30-40 fps cu minime de 25.
Crysis 1.2.1 totul pe high 0xAA, 1680*1050: 30-35 fps in single player, 20-30 in multiplayer. Cu all high si 2xAA - 25-30 fps in single player.
Grid 1.2 totul la maxim 8xAA: intre 30 si 50 fps in functie de cursa; interesant e ca se mentin cam aceleasi fps-uri si cu 12xCSAA sau 24xCSAA.. Am jucat totusi putin, cand imi fac timp o sa testez mai mult.
Limitari clare de la procesor am vazut in jocuri care nu stiu de dual core, adica TF2 si TQ:IT. In cel din urma am acelasi framerate pe care-l aveam si cu x1950xt, iar in TF2 (totul la maxim, 8xAA) am medii de 40-50 cu scaderi sub 30 pe harti cu spatii deschise si 30+ de jucatori (orange_cross, orange_x, gold rush). Am cautat pe forumuri si-am gasit si pe altii care au aceeasi problema in TF2 cu scaderi sub 30, desi aia aveau GTX260 si c2d.. Macar a murit si capra vecinului lol. De mentionat ca si-n TF2 am performante doar putin mai mici cu 24xCSAA fata de 8xAA; it looks awesome too.
Uitasem, toate astea sunt cu placa la 700/2100 (n-a stat nici macar 10 minute stock lol) si cu Adaptive AA si Mipmap activate (I lieks eye candy).
Per total sunt multumit de placa, atata timp cat mai toate jocurile sunt jucabile cu tot la maxim nu simt nevoia sa fac upgrade la procesor.
CoD4 1.7 Multiplayer, totul la maxim, 4xAA 16xAF, 1680*1050 - 70-80 fps cu minime de 50-60 pe mai toate hartile (Mai putin Killhouse unde scade un pic, deh, servere de 50 de jucatori); cu 12xCSAA 40-50 fps, scaderi spre 30, iar cu 24xCSAA 30-40 fps cu minime de 25.
Crysis 1.2.1 totul pe high 0xAA, 1680*1050: 30-35 fps in single player, 20-30 in multiplayer. Cu all high si 2xAA - 25-30 fps in single player.
Grid 1.2 totul la maxim 8xAA: intre 30 si 50 fps in functie de cursa; interesant e ca se mentin cam aceleasi fps-uri si cu 12xCSAA sau 24xCSAA.. Am jucat totusi putin, cand imi fac timp o sa testez mai mult.
Limitari clare de la procesor am vazut in jocuri care nu stiu de dual core, adica TF2 si TQ:IT. In cel din urma am acelasi framerate pe care-l aveam si cu x1950xt, iar in TF2 (totul la maxim, 8xAA) am medii de 40-50 cu scaderi sub 30 pe harti cu spatii deschise si 30+ de jucatori (orange_cross, orange_x, gold rush). Am cautat pe forumuri si-am gasit si pe altii care au aceeasi problema in TF2 cu scaderi sub 30, desi aia aveau GTX260 si c2d.. Macar a murit si capra vecinului lol. De mentionat ca si-n TF2 am performante doar putin mai mici cu 24xCSAA fata de 8xAA; it looks awesome too.

Uitasem, toate astea sunt cu placa la 700/2100 (n-a stat nici macar 10 minute stock lol) si cu Adaptive AA si Mipmap activate (I lieks eye candy).
Per total sunt multumit de placa, atata timp cat mai toate jocurile sunt jucabile cu tot la maxim nu simt nevoia sa fac upgrade la procesor.
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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
or fi ele jucabile,dar nu ar strica macar sa faci overcloking la procesor.Ca sa te convingi cat de mare e limitatea lasa placa video la frecventele stock,apoi compara rezultetele dupa ce ii faci OC.Daca nu e nici o diferenta este clar.Ia sa duci procesorul la 3ghz si mai vorbim dup-aia 

Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
A aparut un nou driver de la Nvidia dar cel mai important softul badaboom care promite compresie ultra rapida.
M-am jucat cu el un pic sa fac filme ptr. PSP si intradevar face repede dar nu iese bine adica are un fel de stuttering cnad ii dau play sau cand convertesc un wmv se desicronizeaza audio si clipul merge la de 2 ori framerate-ul normal.
Per total softul este inutilizabil ptr. mine ptr. ca nu imi poate compresa nici macar 1 film bine , ori se stricata imaginea ori e frmreat-ul varza fata de cel original ori se desincronizeaza sunetul , mai ramane sa incerc niste casete de pe camera video sa le uploadez si sa vad daca le face corect.
sistem c2d 2,9 ghz 8800gts 320 si 2gb ram = badaboom nu merge pe G80 fiind beta.
M-am jucat cu el un pic sa fac filme ptr. PSP si intradevar face repede dar nu iese bine adica are un fel de stuttering cnad ii dau play sau cand convertesc un wmv se desicronizeaza audio si clipul merge la de 2 ori framerate-ul normal.
Per total softul este inutilizabil ptr. mine ptr. ca nu imi poate compresa nici macar 1 film bine , ori se stricata imaginea ori e frmreat-ul varza fata de cel original ori se desincronizeaza sunetul , mai ramane sa incerc niste casete de pe camera video sa le uploadez si sa vad daca le face corect.
sistem c2d 2,9 ghz 8800gts 320 si 2gb ram = badaboom nu merge pe G80 fiind beta.
Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
dizzee, vezi ca Crysis nu e jucabil cu totul la maxim 

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Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
NVIDIA posted first quaterly loss in 5 years

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Nvidia, of Santa Clara, Calif., said the net loss in the period ended July 27 was $120.9 million, or 22 cents a share. The company reported a profit in the year-earlier period of $172.7 million, or 29 cents a share. Revenue declined 4.5% to $892.7 million.
Re: Noutati DAAMIT R700 -/- nVIDIA GT200
AMD Showcases Cinema 2.0, Photo-realism Closer to Developers' Reach.

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This technology called Cinema 2.0 makes producing photo-realistic human characters possible. It can be used in scenarios such as producing a full-on CGI movie or parts of it, where computers generate the actors' computer-animated replica that's the most photo-realistic in today's time. For example, the woman in the picture below is computer-animated. Believe it!

Ce mi-a atras atentia, in acel articol:
Cum, Crytek, cu al sau Crysis TWIMTBP?The big names in the gaming industry, namely Splash Damage, Crytek, Rebellion, Remedy (makers of Alan Wake Forever) and even Blizzard were noted in the presentation as partners of AMD. This technology looks close to being the way of the future, tomorrow's games will be more cinematic than ever thanks to ongoing efforts by the major players in the hardware industry also working on technologies that will drive them.
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