Socket 754...2800+: ADA2800AEP4AP si 2800+: ADA2800AEP4AX

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Tisoza
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Socket 754...2800+: ADA2800AEP4AP si 2800+: ADA2800AEP4AX

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...ADA2800AEP4AP
...ADA2800AEP4AX


Am de ales intre aceste 2 modele! Acum chiar nu stiu pe care sa il aleg si nici prea mult timp nu mai am la dispozitie. Care sunt diferentele intre ele? in afara de "Stepping" mai sunt alte diferente? Este unul mai putin OC?
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AP este steppingul vechi C0 si este de fapt un Clawhammer 1MB L2 dar cu jumatate cache L2 dezactivat (rezultand doar 512KB). Modelul este foarte vechi si ma indoiesc ca se mai gaseste pe piata...
Recomand AX.
OVERCLOCKING -> The process of installing high hopes, dumb luck, and several paychecks into a rectangular box which transmits a signal to a screen that displays your fate.
The outcome is usually depressing.
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Post by Tisoza »

deci AX este un NewCastle (CG rev.) si are L2 cu 512KB de la mama lui?
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Post by Corbu' »

Da si aia sa ceri atunci cand cumperi. 99% ca asta o sa iti dea din prima, varianta AP este foarte veche si a fost putin raspandita la vremea ei.
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The outcome is usually depressing.
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Post by Tisoza »

Corbu' wrote:Da si aia sa ceri atunci cand cumperi. 99% ca asta o sa iti dea din prima, varianta AP este foarte veche si a fost putin raspandita la vremea ei.
Oarecum ce mai lamurit tu, gasisem si eu in diferite articole. Dar este vorba de niste magazine din SUA, si desi aparea ca fiind core NewCastle, la "Model #" aparea terminatia AP...chestiunea aceasta m-a bagat in ceata!

ps. acum sper sa nu fie offtopic, dar mai am o nelamurire: de ce variantele "BOX" desi au mai multa garantie si vin si cu cooler, pasta...sunt la preturi apropiate de variantele OEM?
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Post by 2hacku »

Cooler-ul "stock" nu este unul extrem de performant(implicit nu foarte scump). Diferenta de pret acopera in mare parte acest plus al variantei BOX.
Only the mediocre work at their best...
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Post by cristi_TNT »

uite specificatiile tuturor procesoarelor athlon 64:

ADA / -reprezinta AMD Athlon 64
3500 / -numar model:Athlon 64 3500+
D / -tip impachetare D=939 pini OmicroPGA
I / -voltaj operare I=1.4 V
K / -temp nucleu:K=65 grade
4 / -marime cache L2:4=512 KB
BI / -nucleu:BI=winchester socket 939

deci procesorul care are codul: ADA3500DIK4BI este un:Athlon 64 3500+ winchester socket 939 512 KB l2 cache la 1.4 V

cod OPN pt arhitectura:
COD OPN NUME MODEL PUTERE
ADA / ATHLON 64 FX 89W
ADA / ATHLON 64 89W
ADA / MOBILE ATHLON 64 (DTR) 81.9W
AM N / MOBILE ATHLON 64 62W
AM D / MOBILE ATHLON 64 35W
OS A / AMD OPTERON 89W
OS K / AMD OPTERON 50W
OS B / AMD OPETRON 30W

COD OPN PENTRU TEMPERATURA NUCLEU

COD OPN TEMPERATURA MAXIMA
O / 69 GRADE CELSIUS
P / 70 GRADE CELSIUS
X / 95 GRADE CELSIUS
Y / 100 GRADE CELSIUS
K / 65 GRADE CELSIUS

COD OPN PENTRU NUCLEU

COD OPN NUCLEU TEHNOLOGIE FABRICATIE
AP / CLAWHAMMER 754 / 0.13 MICRONI
AR / CLAWHAMMER 754 / 0.13 MICRONI
AX / NEWCASTLE 754 / 0.13 MICRONI
AW / NEWCASTLE 939 / 0.13 MICRONI
AS / SLEDGEHAMMER 939 / 0.13 MICRONI
AK/AT / SLEDGEHAMMER 940 / 0.13 MICRONI
BI / WINCHESTER 939 / 0.09 MICRONI

COD OPN PENTRU TIPUL DE IMPACHETARE

COD OPN TIP IMPACHETARE
A / 754 PINI OmicroPGA
B / 754 PINI OmicroPGA lidless
C / 940 PINI CmicroPGA
D / 939 PINI OmicroPGA

CODUL OPN PENTRU MARIMEA L2 CACHE

COD OPN CACHE L2
3 / 256 KB
4 / 512 KB
5 / 1024 KB

CODUL OPN PENTRU VOLTAJ

COD OPN VOLTAJ
C / 1.55V
E / 1.5V
I / 1.4V
M / 1.3V
Q / 1.2V
S / 1.15V

FRECVENTE FUNCTIONARE SI TIP SOCKET
754 PINI 939 PINI 940 PINI
CLOCK SPD MULTIPLIC 512KB/1M 512KB/1M 1M
1600 / 8.0X / 2700/2800 / - - / -
1800 / 9.0X / 2800/3000 / - - / -
2000 / 10.0X / 3000/3200 / 3200/ - / -
2200 / 11.0X / 3200/3400 / 3500/ - / FX 51
2400 / 12.0X / 3400/3700 / 3800/FX53/4000 / FX 53
2600 / 13.0X / - / - / - / FX55 / -

PROCESOARE AMD ATHLON 64

MODEL / FRECVENTA / L2 CACHE / SOCKET
4000 / 2.4 GHZ / 1MB / 939
3800 / 2.4 GHZ / 512KB / 939
3700 / 2.4 GHZ / 1MB / 754
3500 / 2.2 GHZ / 512KB / 939
3400 / 2.4 GHZ / 512KB / 754
3200 / 2.0 GHZ / 1MB / 754
3200 / 2.0 GHZ / 512KB / 939
3000 / 2.0 GHZ / 512KB / 754
3000 / 1.8 GHZ / 512KB / 939

DETALII TEHNICE ATHLON 64

64 BITI / DA
COMPATIBIL 32 BITI / DA
L1 CACHE / 128 KB (64+64)
L2 CACHE / 1 MB,512 KB
HYPER TRANSPORT / DA,16x16 LINK PINA LA 1600 MHZ (754)
SAU 2000 MHZ (939)
LATIME BANDA / PINA LA 8 GB/SEC
HYPERTRANSPORT I/O
CONTROLER MEMORIE / DA
INTEGRAT

CONTROLER MEMORIE / 64 BITI (754),128 BITI (754)
TIPURI MEMORIE / PC 3200,2700,2100,1600
SUPORTATA

LATIME BANDA RAM / PINA LA 6.4 GB/SEC
LATIME BANDA TOTALA / PINA LA 9.6 GB/SEC(754),14.4GB/SEC(754)
PROCESOR-SISTEM

TEHNOLOGIE FABRIC / 90 SAU 130 NANOMETRII SOI
(silicon-on-insulated)
IMPACHETARE / 754,939 PINI micro PGA
CONSUM /89W
DIMENSIUNE PASTILA / 144-193 mmp
NR.TRANZISTORI /DE LA 144 LA 193 mmp
DE LA 68.5 LA 105.9 MILIOANE FUNCTIE
DE CACHE

SURSA: REVISTA XPC NR.63

calculul il faci tu,ce procesor vrei,cu cit cache,ce frecv,ce voltaj,etc.
bafta!

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Sa nu faci greseala sa iei AP! Eu nu am fost atent si am luat modelul asta, are revizia C0 si este varza la OC. Noroc ca cei de la firma de la care l-am cumparat sunt super de treaba si l-au schimbat, dar nu cu un NewCastle AX, cum as fi vrut eu ci tot cu un ClawHammer dar revizia CG, cu AR in coada, care se comporta mai bine in oc! II multumes Zanei Maselute pt chestia asta...ea m-a luminat si pe mine !! [smilie=Respect.gif]
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Post by Corbu' »

Un pic offtopic...
Cunosc un caz de 3200+ C0 care se ducea OC-at pana in 2700Mhz, pana la urma totul depinde de noroc.
OVERCLOCKING -> The process of installing high hopes, dumb luck, and several paychecks into a rectangular box which transmits a signal to a screen that displays your fate.
The outcome is usually depressing.
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Post by Tisoza »

frumoasa descriere cristi_TNT!!! \:D/
Este clar, o sa merg pe varianta AX, si in rest dupa cum zice si Corbu, tine si de noroc...
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Post by Christian »

Tisoza wrote:frumoasa descriere cristi_TNT!!! \:D/
pai daca mai cumparai si tu revista, vedeai ca era articolul in ea, pe care cristi a avut bunavointa sa ti-l copieze/scaneze :tongue3:
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Post by Zolly »

Cat de mult pot sa am incredere in programe precum cpu-z si central brain identifier, pt ca unul imi spune ca procu meu ii clawhammer iar celalat newcastel.Conform central brain identifier procesorul ii ADA2800AEP4AR deci clawhammer dar arata newcastel. Care ii faza?
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Downloadeaza ultimele versiuni CPU-Z si Central Brain Identifier, fa 2 screenshot-uri si punele aici. Rezolvam noi problema...
OVERCLOCKING -> The process of installing high hopes, dumb luck, and several paychecks into a rectangular box which transmits a signal to a screen that displays your fate.
The outcome is usually depressing.
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Post by Zolly »

Uite screenshot-ul.
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Hmm...CPU-Z vad ca e ultima versiune, dar se pare ca e un ClawHammer cu jumatate cache L2 dezactivat, functional rezultand un NewCastle.
OVERCLOCKING -> The process of installing high hopes, dumb luck, and several paychecks into a rectangular box which transmits a signal to a screen that displays your fate.
The outcome is usually depressing.
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Post by cristi_TNT »

daca intrii aici,iei ultima versiune central brain

http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/C ... -5433.html
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Post by Zolly »

si central brain identifier e ultima versiune
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Post by adryan2 »

Este un ClawHammer! Si eu am aceeasi serie si model de proc...CBId iti arata OPN-ul cu AR in coada, AR care inseamna ClawHammer. Daca era NewC trebuia sa aiba AX. Asa ca Cpu-z iti arata modelul corect! :laughing6:
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